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Agreed. To each his own.
The reason why we enforce the description of the photos is because it's usually the meaning behind the photo rather than the photo itself that matters.
If you tell people you like gummy bears, they don't give a crap because millions of other people in the world do. But when you tell them that you eat all the white gummy bears last and you have to eat them headfirst, you've provided a very intimate and personal bond to which someone else can relate to. Anyone can take a photograph, but only you can tell people the story behind it.
Thanks for the links! I'll look into it.
The reason why we enforce the description of the photos is because it's usually the meaning behind the photo rather than the photo itself that matters.
If you tell people you like gummy bears, they don't give a crap because millions of other people in the world do. But when you tell them that you eat all the white gummy bears last and you have to eat them headfirst, you've provided a very intimate and personal bond to which someone else can relate to. Anyone can take a photograph, but only you can tell people the story behind it.
Thanks for the links! I'll look into it.
I'm not sure what your application does, to be honest:
"Persona gathers the stories behind each photograph of your life and personality to create a visual collage, much like a fingerprint, that is wholly, and uniquely your own."
Why? To what end? Who's going to see them? It looks pretty, but I'm not sure what it does for me.
Grooovy is a much easier concept to understand: "meet people within a 20 mile radius of you for drinks, a snack or food."
"Persona gathers the stories behind each photograph of your life and personality to create a visual collage, much like a fingerprint, that is wholly, and uniquely your own."
Why? To what end? Who's going to see them? It looks pretty, but I'm not sure what it does for me.
Grooovy is a much easier concept to understand: "meet people within a 20 mile radius of you for drinks, a snack or food."
Hm, for some reason, you're viewing the old copy on the site. It was updated last night but I guess something happened and the changes didn't go through. I'll have this updated shortly.
I get where you're going with this but we don't find the need to fully list out all features/functions at the point with a landing page. The purpose of the landing page was to obtain signups, which we're getting successfully. The issue is that all these people just want to wait for the stable version in the App Store. I had someone email me just 5 minutes ago telling me that he doesn't like betas because they crash. What do I say to that?
When we are ready to launch, we'll have a full site letting people know what we're about. We won't do it any earlier because there are some key features to making this app work but we don't want to disclose until we're almost ready to launch.
I get where you're going with this but we don't find the need to fully list out all features/functions at the point with a landing page. The purpose of the landing page was to obtain signups, which we're getting successfully. The issue is that all these people just want to wait for the stable version in the App Store. I had someone email me just 5 minutes ago telling me that he doesn't like betas because they crash. What do I say to that?
When we are ready to launch, we'll have a full site letting people know what we're about. We won't do it any earlier because there are some key features to making this app work but we don't want to disclose until we're almost ready to launch.
I'm not interested in feature lists, I'm saying that the core value prop of your product isn't clear to me from the landing page as I saw it.
Crashy betas: Thank the user for their interest and promise to email them when the product's GA. Consumers tend not to be very technically savvy.
Crashy betas: Thank the user for their interest and promise to email them when the product's GA. Consumers tend not to be very technically savvy.
"Why are we getting signups but nobody willing to beta test?"
Cool != useful. Maybe nobody wants what you have to offer - it's not compelling enough.
Cool != useful. Maybe nobody wants what you have to offer - it's not compelling enough.
That's true. But at the same time, there has to be at least 1 user out of 386 signups now that would beta test right? And a lot of them are saying they'd want to use it but just want to wait till it's out in the App Store. Is it the new norm to only start using apps that's already stable and in the app store?
Friends of Friends who've used this app are still using it even now and it's slowly expanding through word of mouth. So we know that there's a market for it, but we're just not sure why our signups are unresponsive when it comes to beta testing.
Friends of Friends who've used this app are still using it even now and it's slowly expanding through word of mouth. So we know that there's a market for it, but we're just not sure why our signups are unresponsive when it comes to beta testing.
"Is it the new norm to only start using apps that's already stable and in the app store?"
Wait, are you saying that there was ever a time when it was the norm to find a website that promised an app, and then send your UDID to the makers of that site in the hopes of receiving an IOS archive from them that you then have to drag via iTunes onto your phone?
You guys suffer from tech myopia. I am very technical, I have written iOS apps, and I would never put something onto my iOS devices that I just received from some dude on the Internet, and I know that Apple puts a fat sandbox around it; compare that to an average user who only know how to get apps from the App Store.
Wait, are you saying that there was ever a time when it was the norm to find a website that promised an app, and then send your UDID to the makers of that site in the hopes of receiving an IOS archive from them that you then have to drag via iTunes onto your phone?
You guys suffer from tech myopia. I am very technical, I have written iOS apps, and I would never put something onto my iOS devices that I just received from some dude on the Internet, and I know that Apple puts a fat sandbox around it; compare that to an average user who only know how to get apps from the App Store.
We do it via hockeyapp download link. We didn't think it was a problem considering the fact that Grooovy's beta test went well and everyone else using it currently is doing the same thing.
But I think you make a really valid point. I think your reasoning so far is the best I've gotten so far to explaining this odd trend that's never happened with us before.
But I think you make a really valid point. I think your reasoning so far is the best I've gotten so far to explaining this odd trend that's never happened with us before.
"Why are we getting signups but nobody willing to beta test?"
1. Your landing page is confusing in my opinion. The concept of persona is not something that everyone will understand easily. You should provide something that shows "how it works" on the landing page. So people might think it is a cool concept but will not beta test since they are not really sure how to go about it or if it is of any use to them.
1. Your landing page is confusing in my opinion. The concept of persona is not something that everyone will understand easily. You should provide something that shows "how it works" on the landing page. So people might think it is a cool concept but will not beta test since they are not really sure how to go about it or if it is of any use to them.
I guess the old copy is showing up for everyone. It was updated last night but changes weren't saved. It'll be fixed later today.
It's not so much that people won't use it. If they won't use it or don't find use for it, you won't even get signups in the first place. I am only strictly speaking from experience but if you have a product that people don't want to try, they won't sign up for it. I've done this before- the question is- why are people signing up for it but only want to try it out in the app store?
Yuriniyazov makes a good point- maybe they're afraid of downloading it anywhere else besides the App store due to possible malware/security breaches. I'm definitely willing to take that as a strong possibility although it's just a little off from what we expected before with grooovy.
It's not so much that people won't use it. If they won't use it or don't find use for it, you won't even get signups in the first place. I am only strictly speaking from experience but if you have a product that people don't want to try, they won't sign up for it. I've done this before- the question is- why are people signing up for it but only want to try it out in the app store?
Yuriniyazov makes a good point- maybe they're afraid of downloading it anywhere else besides the App store due to possible malware/security breaches. I'm definitely willing to take that as a strong possibility although it's just a little off from what we expected before with grooovy.
You could also try services like http://betali.st or http://betabait.com/ to find beta users.