George Carlin dies at 71(msnbc.msn.com)
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George Carlin dies at 71
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"Ohhh the anti-system dollar, that's a big dollar!"
Bill Hicks on marketing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo
Bill Hicks on marketing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo
That clip was like... the anti-humor. Why is that guy so popular?
I'll always remember him for this one:
Leftovers make you feel good twice. First, when you put it away, you feel thrifty and intelligent: ‘I’m saving food!’
Then a month later when blue hair is growing out of the ham, and you throw it away, you feel really intelligent: ‘I’m saving my life!’
Leftovers make you feel good twice. First, when you put it away, you feel thrifty and intelligent: ‘I’m saving food!’
Then a month later when blue hair is growing out of the ham, and you throw it away, you feel really intelligent: ‘I’m saving my life!’
I always liked his "plastics may be the reason for human existence" speculation, which was part of his "the planet doesn't need saving" rant (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eScDfYzMEEw)
Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits.
I'm lukewarm on Carlin being remembered for that (edit: that alone). His comedy is a lot more intelligent than a list of dirty words might imply.
Ratshit, batshit, dirty old twat, sixty-nine assholes tied in a knot. Hooray! Lizard shit. Fuck!
In other words: You demean the work by dividing it into the bits and pieces you consider polite.
In other words: You demean the work by dividing it into the bits and pieces you consider polite.
Seven dirty words only became famous because of the court case. It's good, but not nearly as brilliant as state prison farms, golf courses for the homeless, euphemisms, etc.
I am unfamiliar with this side of Carlin, having seen some videos of him on YouTube recently (maybe a very occasional shit|fuck), I thought he was hysterical.
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"that alone"
We're in agreement on this point. But the reality is that if one wanted to point out his impact on the entertainment industry, one of the most important aspects was that he (along with a handful of others) made it OK for a mainstream comic to work blue. Really, really, incredibly blue.
My favorite of his bits were actually pretty clean. But let's not water the old man down. He's no longer able to defend himself against sanitization.
And, I don't think his seven words bit was lacking in intelligence. I think it was one of his more astute social observations, and it was so controversial partly because it did touch a deep nerve in American culture. And the "ratshit, batshit" cheer was about the funniest thing I'd ever heard in my life. I don't know if I'd call it smart, but I'd certainly call it funny.
We're in agreement on this point. But the reality is that if one wanted to point out his impact on the entertainment industry, one of the most important aspects was that he (along with a handful of others) made it OK for a mainstream comic to work blue. Really, really, incredibly blue.
My favorite of his bits were actually pretty clean. But let's not water the old man down. He's no longer able to defend himself against sanitization.
And, I don't think his seven words bit was lacking in intelligence. I think it was one of his more astute social observations, and it was so controversial partly because it did touch a deep nerve in American culture. And the "ratshit, batshit" cheer was about the funniest thing I'd ever heard in my life. I don't know if I'd call it smart, but I'd certainly call it funny.
Amazingly, he did indeed "die," and not just "pass away." Perhaps he did indeed affect mainstream media slightly...
There are, however, plenty of people out there saying he passed away and "RIP."
I managed to find the bit where he talks about "passing away": http://youtube.com/watch?v=RrvyrxUpibg&feature=related (starting around 4:30).
I feel an impulse to post it in a comment on every blog or article that uses a death euphemism (I did http://searchengineland.com/080623-082447.php already :-)).
I managed to find the bit where he talks about "passing away": http://youtube.com/watch?v=RrvyrxUpibg&feature=related (starting around 4:30).
I feel an impulse to post it in a comment on every blog or article that uses a death euphemism (I did http://searchengineland.com/080623-082447.php already :-)).
Shining Time Station mourns.
He hacked culture, I guess.
I love Carlin, but this IS NOT STARTUP NEWS. The article was on digg, slashdot and wired. this feed used to be different. ;-(
This site isn't about startup news, it's about hacker news. Small reminder...
On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.
Carlin was damn interesting and someone I'd bet many many hackers looked up to.
On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.
Carlin was damn interesting and someone I'd bet many many hackers looked up to.
Serious question: Why is this one OK, but the news of Tim Russert passing was not?
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=217591
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=217591
Because Tim Russert wasn't the genius Carlin was, and didn't make a living hacking our idiotic social norms like Carlin did. Carlin was a hacker in the truest sense, he was curious about everything and wasn't afraid to explore any topic, despite the consequences.
Probably because less people liked Tim Russert.
Please clarify: fewer people, lesser people, or both?
;-)
;-)
yc appreciates genius.
who says this one is ok.
Bad beat. Also a bad beat will be the flood of memorial crap in television and film sure to follow.
I'm calling shenanigans here. You can't use poker terms in real life, can you?
Bad beat and bluff are the only ones allowed.
Anything beyond that is a flop.
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Hmm. He was just here a minute ago.
Who is george carlin??
This is wonderful advice for my start-up. Thank you.
Then he realized that he could do a 180 and instead do a routine attacking the system. That's when he really took off. He hit his stride during the late 60s/early 70s with a completely new and growing market: the kids.
This is a good example of the same product (Carlin) working at a mediocre level in one market and being a complete success in another. It takes guts to change your market positioning!
I loved some of his stuff. In all fairness, to me some of his stuff towards the end sounded like "old angry hippie tries to stay relevant"
But he was a genius by any measure. Somewhere up in Vallhalla Odin is probably laughing right now at the cats and dogs routine.