Estonia institutes volunteer cyber army(net-security.org)

20 pointsby DirtyPowder16 anni fa14 comments

http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=10404

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"The people who work in IT in the U.S. tend to be quite suspicious of government," says Stewart Baker, a former general counsel at the NSA. "Maybe they think that they're so much smarter than governments that they'll be able to handle an attack on their own. But there's a standoffishness that makes it much harder to have that kind of easy confidence that you can call on people in an emergency and that they'll be respond."

That section made me laugh, seriously, it's not because they think they are smarter and better, they just don't want to deal with the gov and be told what to do.

pavel_lishin16 anni fa

I thought it's that they didn't trust the government.

wladimir16 anni fa

Exactly. It's not any illusion of being 'better'. Some level of distrust is pretty rational, governments have their own agendas and those might not always be aligned with that of a multinational. And if multiple governments want to be involved in your IT infrastructure it could get pretty messy. You're inviting the "cyberwar" on your turf instead of keeping it out.

sad_hacker16 anni fa

I guess Estonians do trust their government, at least the IT part of it, they even vote online.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voting_in_Estonia

3pt1415916 anni fa

Everything old is new again. It would be interesting to see online groups much, like militias in the 1700s, getting called up by the government in a time of war, but keeping out spies would be difficult. Let's face it you are working with some of the few people on the planet that actually understand encryption and stenography.

duskwuff16 anni fa

Interesting concept, but what exactly is a volunteer cyber-soldier supposed to do?

michaelty16 anni fa

The other side of cyber armies:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party

jodrellblank16 anni fa

This is a much more interesting story about Estonia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_Do_It_2008

They got 50,000 people to clean up 10,000 tons of dumped rubbish spread over the whole country with a year of buildup and planning and 5 hours of work on the day.

mahmud16 anni fa

Those stuff are very common in former communist nations. The whole country does "trash collection day" for one day, then liters for 364.

plaes16 anni fa

I wish I could downvote you.. :S

mahmud16 anni fa

Why can't you? Cat got your mouse pointer?

P.S. I was a commie myself, just yesterday:

http://twitter.com/BigThingist/status/23033284455833601

plaes16 anni fa

> Why can't you? Cat got your mouse pointer?

Lack of karma, I guess...

PS. I'm Estonian ;)

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sad_hacker16 anni fa

And there are only 1.3 million people in Estonia... The communist comment is even too dumb to give it an answer...

JoeAltmaier16 anni fa

What a cool country. The more I hear about Estonia the more I like it.