The Forest for the Trees(blog.patternsinthevoid.net)
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The Forest for the Trees
https://blog.patternsinthevoid.net/the-forest-for-the-trees.html
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I know you intended this as a compliment, but it reads to me as a backhanded insult to every other anarchist writer.
What you are saying comes across to me like: "It is a delight to read an excellent post by someone from the Muslim world. Most Muslim writings that get passed to me are bogged down in Arabic vocabulary, or have hidden assumptions that don't make sense to me. This piece was written in English, and shows the advantages and disadvantages of Muslim philosophy."
I don't mean to jump down your throat, but I just find it really frustrating how many pro-capitalist demand that every idea be translated into their metaphors and their models and their experiences while putting no stock whatsoever in the fact that entire societies function perfectly well under different value systems. The "you're wrong until you can prove it to me" attitude really bugs me because I think we could advance society so much faster if we worked collaboratively to discover the truth.
I get the sense that you do truly appreciate this essay, but you'd never do the work to try to reach across in the opposite direction. That works fine for you because your ideology is the dominant one, but I think it is an abuse of power.
What you are saying comes across to me like: "It is a delight to read an excellent post by someone from the Muslim world. Most Muslim writings that get passed to me are bogged down in Arabic vocabulary, or have hidden assumptions that don't make sense to me. This piece was written in English, and shows the advantages and disadvantages of Muslim philosophy."
I don't mean to jump down your throat, but I just find it really frustrating how many pro-capitalist demand that every idea be translated into their metaphors and their models and their experiences while putting no stock whatsoever in the fact that entire societies function perfectly well under different value systems. The "you're wrong until you can prove it to me" attitude really bugs me because I think we could advance society so much faster if we worked collaboratively to discover the truth.
I get the sense that you do truly appreciate this essay, but you'd never do the work to try to reach across in the opposite direction. That works fine for you because your ideology is the dominant one, but I think it is an abuse of power.
You're absolutely right, I won't work to understand you.
Sorry. I don't have infinite time in my life, and obscure political ideologies require too much of an investment for me to benefit from it. I don't have time in my life to learn arabic, socialist-speak and anarchist-speak, and even if I did, who would I talk to about it? I don't know anyone who thinks like that. It's bad enough being the only technology person I know in the real world. I started learning french because I was around enough speakers to extract value from it.
You're going to have to do the work for me if you want to win, because you already speak the language. But hey, if you don't want me, that's ok, I'm pretty happy serving the neoliberal economic beast.
You're going to have to do the work for me if you want to win, because you already speak the language. But hey, if you don't want me, that's ok, I'm pretty happy serving the neoliberal economic beast.
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Related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11910543
Most anarchist/socialist writings that get passed to me are bogged down in vocabulary specific to them, or have hidden assumptions that don't make sense to me, and difficult to understand. This piece was extraordinarily clear, and shows the advantages and disadvantages of their system. It certainly made me re-think my concept of justice. I would like to think mainstream society could learn a lot from the author.