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The trusty laws of thermodynamics strike again

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I think you nerds need to stop reading obsolete academic fad papers from 1985. Imagine if your girlfriend was unironically reading articles of Cosmo from 1985 to figure out what to wear.

A computer program is a "model" of some thing. For example:

    float m = 1e10f;
    float a = 9.8f;
    float F = m*a;

Another example:

    if(employee is still employed):
       float paycheque = getSalary(employee);

    else: 
       float paycheque = 0.00f;

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Consider yourself lucky.

My public high school in Ontario was supposed to be a "magnet school for the gifted" and instead turned out to be a scam.

The computer class teacher was absent for a year, and the substitute teacher insisted that the keyboard and mouse cords should be neatly arranged at the end of each class as if it was a knitting class. The "coursework" consisted of learning how to type out "business memos" using a word processor.

The school believed that this was an important skill and imagined that we would be writing "memos" on computers and printing them out in the "business world."

I skipped every class I could to hang out with my girlfriend and got out with a 2.0 GPA.

The school in question has since been demolished. The whole scam was to try to prevent the school from being demolished due to low performance, so they pretended to be a "magnet school for the gifted."

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Is anyone surprised by this? Do any guys remember women getting higher grades in college?

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FYI, it would take approximately 99.3 billion years to complete the Hamiltonian circuit of the Rubik's cube’s quarter-turn metric Cayley graph using the GAN 12 Maglev UV Coated 3x3 Rubik's cube.

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Location: Toronto, ON

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I am a full-stack software engineer with a background in applied mathematics, high performance computing and real-time systems. Currently working on a side project involving numerical computing and AI models.

I am interested in full-time and/or contract opportunities.

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Can anyone explain the layout and formatting of the slides?

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No. It's humour.

There is no such thing as the Second Law of Thermodynamics of a Turing Machine.

Unless! You turn the machine off. Then energy input equals zero, it becomes a closed system, and entropy kicks in.

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Ah, Professor Vardi, a fascinating case study in our department. His devotion to the 'science' in computer science is truly something to behold. It's not every day you see someone try to reconcile Turing machines with the second law of thermodynamics ...

Dr. Vardi's Second Law of Thermodynamics for boolean SAT and SMT (Satisfiability Modulo Theory) solvers is truly a marvel of interdisciplinary ambition. In his framework, computational entropy is said to increase with each transition of the Turing machine, as if bits themselves somehow carry thermodynamic weight. He posits that any algorithm—no matter how deterministic—gradually loses "information purity" as it executes, much like how heat dissipates in a closed system. His real stroke of genius lies in the idea that halting problems are not just undecidable, but thermodynamically unstable. According to Dr. Vardi, attempts to force a Turing machine into solving such problems inevitably lead to an "entropy singularity," where the machine's configuration becomes so probabilistically diffuse that it approaches the heat death of computation. This, he claims, is why brute-force methods become inefficient: they aren’t just computationally expensive, they are thermodynamically costly as well. Of course, there are skeptics who suggest that his theory might just be an elaborate metaphor stretched to breaking point—after all, it’s unclear if bits decay in quite the same way as particles in a particle accelerator.

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### *Formalization and Implementation*: While the paper lays out a theoretical framework, its practical implementation may face significant challenges. For instance, generating meaningful mathematical conjectures is far more abstract and constrained than tasks like generating text or images. The space of potential theorems is vast, and training an AI system to navigate this space intelligently would require further breakthroughs in both theory and computational techniques.

### *Compression as a Measure of Theorem Usefulness*: The notion that a good theorem compresses provable statements is intriguing but may need more exploration in terms of practical utility. While compression aligns with Occam's Razor and Bayesian learning principles, it's not always clear whether the most "compressed" theorems are the most valuable, especially when considering the depth and complexity of many foundational theorems in mathematics.

### *Human-AI Collaboration*: The paper lightly touches on how this AI mathematician might work alongside humans, but the real power of such a system might lie in human-AI collaboration. A mathematician AI capable of generating insightful conjectures and proofs could dramatically accelerate research, but the interaction between AI and human intuition would be key.

### *Computational and Theoretical Limits*: There are also potential computational limits to the approach. The "compression" and "conjecture-making" frameworks proposed may be too complex to compute at scale, especially when considering the vast space of possible theorems and proofs. Developing approximation methods or heuristics that are effective in real-world applications will likely be necessary.

Here's how we can unpack this paper:

### *System 1 vs. System 2 Thinking*: - *System 1* refers to intuitive, fast, and automatic thinking, such as recognizing patterns or generating fluent responses based on past experience. AI systems like GPT-4 excel in this area, as they are trained to predict and generate plausible content based on large datasets (e.g., text completion, language generation). - *System 2* refers to deliberate, logical, and slow thinking, often involving reasoning, planning, and making sense of abstract ideas—such as solving a mathematical proof, engaging in formal logic, or synthesizing novel insights. The claim that AI lacks System 2 abilities suggests that while AI can mimic certain behaviors associated with intelligence, it struggles with tasks that require structured, step-by-step reasoning and deep conceptual understanding.

### "Not so much in terms of mathematical reasoning"

The claim is *partially true*, but it must be put into context:

   - **Progress in AI**: AI has made **tremendous advances** in recent years, and while it may still lack sophisticated mathematical reasoning, there is significant progress in related areas like automated theorem proving (e.g., systems like Lean or Coq). Specialized systems can solve well-defined, formal mathematical problems—though these systems are not general-purpose AI and operate under specific constraints.

   - **Scope of Current Models**: General-purpose models like GPT-4 weren't specifically designed for deep mathematical reasoning. Their training focuses on predicting likely sequences of tokens, not on formal logic or theorem proving. However, with enough specialized training or modularity, they could improve in these domains. We’ve already seen AI systems make progress in proving mathematical theorems with reinforcement learning and imitation learning techniques.

   - **Frontiers of AI**: As AI continues to develop, future systems might incorporate elements of both System 1 and System 2 thinking by combining pattern recognition with symbolic reasoning and logical processing (e.g., systems that integrate neural networks with formal logic solvers or reasoning engines).

### Conclusion: AI excels in tasks involving intuitive, pattern-based thinking but struggles with deliberate, goal-oriented reasoning required for deep mathematical work. However, as research evolves—especially in hybrid models that combine deep learning with symbolic reasoning and formal logic—these limitations may become less pronounced.

The future of AI may very well involve systems that are capable of the same level of mathematical reasoning (or better) as "human experts."

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Sorry! It's [email protected]

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I could have spent time getting it to generate more formulas and diagrams. It's not difficult since it generates LaTeX, but I wouldn't be able to understand them.

According to ChatGPT the paper makes sense to ChatGPT but isn't rigorous enough. Then if I put that into a feedback loop, it starts producing "more rigorous" output.

It's a little concerning so I decided to stop here. It seems it could produce a wall of mathematical text that would take a professional a year to read.

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I spent the weekend running ChatGPT in a loop on a theoretical physics paper. This was the result. It seems to have come up with some type of conjecture.

I'm wondering if anyone who understands Langlands program mathematics or Quantum Field Theory can opine on whether it's gibberish or makes real sense.

It seems interesting, however I have only a cursory understanding of Quantum Field Theory and don't know anything about the Langlands program.

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Honestly, I thought it was an undergrad entrance exam and was feeling sorry for Japanese high school students, before I checked the title again.

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FWIW, I think GS imposes a proprietary language ("Slang") in many areas as well.

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