hasty_pudding

What languages on Earth implement non-primitive data structures without objects?

I guess maybe low level c and assembly where you implement everything as bits in physical memory?

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you know how unsufferable it is when people bog a conversation down with semantics instead of ideas.

the point is obvious.

Being that every single language on Earth uses objects for non-primitive data structures that should be inferrable to a reasonable person.

a data structure in that context is clearly an ordered grouping of objects versus an unordered/loose grouping of objects.

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Very far

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You definitely need generic node objects to define the nodes.

You could have a completely stateless class/object that would manipulate those nodes and add them and remove them from the data structure.

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What they mean is functions and data are separate, emulating a more functional paradigm and less mutable state.

The functions are kept pure and the data is kept pure.

As opposed to an object oriented programming style in which data and functions share the same object and create bug ridden state machines thats not as easy to reason about.

Some further explanation about this:

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/702062-immutable-objects-ar...

a semi-nuanced discussion:

https://www.reddit.com/r/scala/comments/ejwsp1/is_mutability...

you can just Google mutable state to find more info.

separating your data structures and functions in many cases will make your code cleaner and more bug free.

hasty_pudding

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"all functions are pure, there is no data mutation, and entities are represented by data structures instead of objects."

God i love to see this

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The problem is you don't know if it's a blunder until after.

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don't know what you're getting downvoted it is true