Steam has been banned in China(thegamer.com)
thegamer.com
Steam has been banned in China
https://www.thegamer.com/steam-banned-china-christmas-day/
486 comments
What is going on here with the comment section? Seems like it's flooded with pro ccp activists
"we've always been at war with eastasia"
The major problem I see, is that every major power uses propaganda to their benefit, yet even highly intelligent people often don't see the propaganda of their native (or chosen) home.
I see the propaganda of China, Russia as well as the one of the US and Europe.
There are no white, selfless knights around. There never were.
Does that mean that nothing matters, that (subjective) morale suddenly is meaningless?
Of course it doesn't!
But it puts "them vs us" into perspective.
Humans are humans and act like humans all around the world.
The major problem I see, is that every major power uses propaganda to their benefit, yet even highly intelligent people often don't see the propaganda of their native (or chosen) home.
I see the propaganda of China, Russia as well as the one of the US and Europe.
There are no white, selfless knights around. There never were.
Does that mean that nothing matters, that (subjective) morale suddenly is meaningless?
Of course it doesn't!
But it puts "them vs us" into perspective.
Humans are humans and act like humans all around the world.
What will happen to Chinese games on Steam? I will be profoundly sad if they disappear. For example: Dyson Sphere Program is one of my favorite games of all time. If that's gone, I'm going to have a hard time not making the CCP my mortal enemy
It might not actually be banned; there are reports on Twitter and Reddit saying it's just a DNS cache poisoning attack similar to one a few years ago. No one's posting good verifiable info though so I don't really know. Steam definitely seems to be inaccessible in China right now, but why and whether it's intentional is not yet clear.
https://twitter.com/Stutsies/status/1474748979326111751?s=20
Looks like it's a DNS attack, not a ban.
Looks like it's a DNS attack, not a ban.
"Steam has been banned in China" reads differently than the article's original title: "Steam Has Reportedly Been Banned In China".
FFS, get it right the first time. Initial impressions went from:
* "Oh really? Not likely but okay..", clicks thread
* Fast-reads comments top to bottom "fuck, what is this.."
* Reads actual article, "God damnit."
FFS, get it right the first time. Initial impressions went from:
* "Oh really? Not likely but okay..", clicks thread
* Fast-reads comments top to bottom "fuck, what is this.."
* Reads actual article, "God damnit."
Wouldn't be surprised if tencent and others are going to launch their own app store. Tencent already partially did with the epic game store. Pull some string in China to block steams global edition to even out the fight for epic game store. Tencent owns like 40~48% of epic.
As a Chinese who moved to U.S. couple years ago... I will never move back to China if there's no sign of democratization.
I honestly (no flamewar intended) wonder if the people of China (the majority of its regular citizens) suddenly decided that they're actually not happy with where the country is going, could they successfully make a change in government? Or is the power grip (+ available technology) of the powers that be (Xi and co) already too strong as to make that impossible, i.e. beyond the point of no return?
I am asking because, putting China aside, other countries seem to be headed in a similar direction if are not outright copying what China's been doing during the last years.
I am asking because, putting China aside, other countries seem to be headed in a similar direction if are not outright copying what China's been doing during the last years.
Sent the link to my son who is an avid gamer.
Got an one-word response:
"Winnienet".
Could not phrase it better.
Got an one-word response:
"Winnienet".
Could not phrase it better.
China does this, then gets their panties in a bunch when the US bans goods made with slave labor.
> anti-Chinese, including the presence of "effeminate men"
How can effeminate men be anti-chinese?
How can effeminate men be anti-chinese?
Banning google, banning, crypto, banning Steam, so much for progress.
Decentralized web advancements will continue to punch holes.
In my eyes, the attack on 'effeminate men' is the nail in the coffin for the government of China. They are as dead to me and my actions will reflect it. Down with Emperor Pooh!
The real q should be what is not banned …
Almost 6.5 billion people in the world excluding china, and I don't think a single one should care.
> The move comes as a surprise
How dense and gullible do you have to be?
Do people keep forgetting they’re dealing with an authoritarian dictatorship?
ANYTHING is on the table, nothing should come as a surprise.
Divest from China and diversify manufacturing sources, otherwise we will wake up one day imprisoned, and „the move will come as a surprise“
How dense and gullible do you have to be?
Do people keep forgetting they’re dealing with an authoritarian dictatorship?
ANYTHING is on the table, nothing should come as a surprise.
Divest from China and diversify manufacturing sources, otherwise we will wake up one day imprisoned, and „the move will come as a surprise“
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Boilers on notice!
Maybe they don't want a dull population sitting many hours playing games and eat junk food.
Or they want the population to use some domestic platform, I am not sure, but even the Google ban has some legitimacy perhaps, when considering the amount of misleading news articles.
China does propaganda, the US outlets lie selectively according to their bias.
And such things can and will lead to having Trump elected with his maga disciples.
I think both are equally bad, just different.
Or they want the population to use some domestic platform, I am not sure, but even the Google ban has some legitimacy perhaps, when considering the amount of misleading news articles.
China does propaganda, the US outlets lie selectively according to their bias.
And such things can and will lead to having Trump elected with his maga disciples.
I think both are equally bad, just different.
Recently I have been getting a lot more annoyed about China. Sure they can ban things, it's their right. But I just don't understand why we are not doing the same.
European and American economies will be destroyed by China soon. But their stockholm syndrome prevents them from doing anything against it.
I just asked my 23 years old sister if she knew what Steam was, she said no.
I would guess that China doesn't have any big enough economic advantage of allowing steam, so maybe steam is not that really big that people think.
Not to mention Valve takes a large cut of game sales so China has pretty good reasons to block it.
Aren't PC game sales a big stagnant? And on all those sales, Steam seems to be interesting for indie and niches games, not for big AAA games, since those AAA games often have their own online platform.
I looked some numbers some time ago, and to me it seems that the PC game market is not really profitable anymore.
And honestly, China might also increase its game profits by banning steam. When you can legally push a product out to make more money, you do it. China doesn't care about liberal economics.
I would guess that China doesn't have any big enough economic advantage of allowing steam, so maybe steam is not that really big that people think.
Not to mention Valve takes a large cut of game sales so China has pretty good reasons to block it.
Aren't PC game sales a big stagnant? And on all those sales, Steam seems to be interesting for indie and niches games, not for big AAA games, since those AAA games often have their own online platform.
I looked some numbers some time ago, and to me it seems that the PC game market is not really profitable anymore.
And honestly, China might also increase its game profits by banning steam. When you can legally push a product out to make more money, you do it. China doesn't care about liberal economics.
Most Chinese Steam users have historically been using the global service instead, as this Chinese version of Steam has only been available since February 2021.