Europe says 737 Max won't fly until it completes it own design review(bloomberg.com)
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Europe says 737 Max won't fly until it completes it own design review
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-07/europe-says-737-max-won-t-fly-until-its-design-review-complete
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Is anyone else extremely reluctant to fly on a Boeing plane after this?
A lot of people say "It's no big deal, they just need to update the MCAS software", but I see this entire situation as a sign of much deeper issues at Boeing, issues that can't be fixed with a simple software update and could affect every plane they make.
A lot of people say "It's no big deal, they just need to update the MCAS software", but I see this entire situation as a sign of much deeper issues at Boeing, issues that can't be fixed with a simple software update and could affect every plane they make.
A slap in the face to the comments that were dismissing concerns as overreactions and stating that 737-MAX would return to operation shortly. Not in EU at least.
Good. Which it should have done and should from now on do for all 'self-certified' Boeing airplanes.
I'm curious to see how passengers will react to flying via 737-max. Will ticket prices be lowered to reflect the inevitable wariness of flying in one again?
Looks like the EASA finally figured out that the FAA can't be trusted with matters regarding Boeing.
BTW, 3 major China airlines formally demand compensation for 737max from Boeing (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48362283)
Let's hope this debacle will finally convince Boeing it can't keep reusing the same airframe - with small adjustments - for half a century.
Edit: Don't forget the 737 airframe was already a modified 727 airframe...
Also, I wonder how this will affect the Boeing-Embraer partnership. It would certainly be cheaper to spec-up an E-Jet to have the capacity of a 737 than to design a new airframe from scratch.
Edit: Don't forget the 737 airframe was already a modified 727 airframe...
Also, I wonder how this will affect the Boeing-Embraer partnership. It would certainly be cheaper to spec-up an E-Jet to have the capacity of a 737 than to design a new airframe from scratch.
Booked a flight for later this summer (US). United apparently thinks the Max is going back in service sooner than later, at least the MAX-9. I decided to take a less desirable iternary and more expensive flights to avoid that aircraft. Clearly the FAA is signaling to someone that this is all going to blow over. Does anyone actually expected the Boeing's to fail the investigation? I don't. Business as usual: "We identified what happend, won't happen again, promises"
I won't be flying on one anytime soon if I can help it.
I won't be flying on one anytime soon if I can help it.
I flied to Cyprus from Stockholm with Norwegian last week. On the plane it was written 737-800 or 737 Max. I wonder how you can tell them apart and if Norwegian uses the Max line!?
And I won't fly on one until Europe completes its own design review.
IMHO anytime an airline releases a statement that says "we have updated our software", its basically the same thing as saying, "Im sorry, but our plane was unstable because of buggy code, hopefully this patch will make sure our planes dont go down." That is scary, software developers make errors, and when your plane is going down because of software related issue, THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM.
The dent the reputation of Boeing got after this is nothing compared to the drop in reputation of the FAA.
People need to be jailed over this, start at the top and work your way down.
As they should - but hopefully they fast-track their design review and make it transparent to everyone.
What the FAA should have done, too.
Jail time for execs is the only solution that matters.
Europe has an interest in promoting their state-sponsored airplane manufacturer, Airbus.
I mean while I'm all for continuing to punish Boeing for their blatant disregard for human lives, you could also say it's in the best interest of the EU to attack Boeing in a way that doesn't seem hostile on a political level since it indirectly benefits Airbus.
This may be as close to an ‘open and shut’ case for corporate gross negligence as we will find in quite a while (at least I hope so).
I would hate to see them go under but it should be clear that this type of corner cutting is unacceptable and future manufacturers of all kinds should think twice before stretching to put a round peg in a square hole.... especially with lives on the line.