Federal judge stays deportations of travelers in Trump immigration order(thehill.com)
thehill.com
Federal judge stays deportations of travelers in Trump immigration order
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/316714-federal-judge-blocks-trump-immigration-ban-nationwide
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I hope this is true. At least we still have a (mostly) independent judiciary.
I think the title of this post is wrong. Here's another post - http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/28/14427086/federal-court-hal... - that states that "The court specifically ruled on Darweesh and Alshawi’s petition; the ACLU will have to include all other similarly-affected immigrants as part of a class action to have it apply more broadly."
I'm sorry to report that it's not over yet:
> Stay covers the airport detainees and those currently in transit. Doesn't change ban going forward. Prev unclear tweet deleted
https://twitter.com/JessicaHuseman/status/825525603491278848
> Important clarification. This does not prevent Trump admin from blocking new travelers.
https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/825525917602693120
> Stay covers the airport detainees and those currently in transit. Doesn't change ban going forward. Prev unclear tweet deleted
https://twitter.com/JessicaHuseman/status/825525603491278848
> Important clarification. This does not prevent Trump admin from blocking new travelers.
https://twitter.com/ericgeller/status/825525917602693120
I was at the solidarity rally at the Dulles International Airport in Herndon, VA for a few hours, although I had left by the time this story broke. I'd wonder if it got announced to the crowd.
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What is the authority chain usually here. Can a Federal judge block other such executive orders? Is this used often
Trump and the Republican Congress are going to appoint many judges during his term, including Supreme Court judges. That could be Trump's most enduring legacy.
So Tump ignores the court and we have a constitutional crisis.
The ACLU is also reporting that the stay was granted: https://twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825520404777287680.
Many of you are probably watching the horror show unfold and wondering what tangible thing you can do. Joining or contributing to the ACLU is one small but important, specific way to help: https://action.aclu.org/secure/become-freedom-fighter-join-a....
https://twitter.com/seligerj/status/825529092414046208
Many of you are probably watching the horror show unfold and wondering what tangible thing you can do. Joining or contributing to the ACLU is one small but important, specific way to help: https://action.aclu.org/secure/become-freedom-fighter-join-a....
https://twitter.com/seligerj/status/825529092414046208
If the ban goes to the Supreme Court and is struck down because Trump didn't wait to fill the vacancy with a loyalist first, he'll have essentially failed the marshmallow test.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2V-XWcVIAAoel4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2V-XWcVIAAoel4.jpg
Donated to the ACLU for the first time today. I also plan to call my representative on Monday.
The text of Trump's temporary order is mostly copy-pasted from temporary orders enacted by Obama that have withstood scrutiny, so I wouldn't get hopes up for a full reversal.
FYI, Chris Sacca is matching grants to ALCU up to $150K...
https://twitter.com/sacca/status/825475296614707200
https://twitter.com/sacca/status/825475296614707200
More precisely, it only blocks part of Trump's order:
"Judge Ann Donnelly of the US District Court in Brooklyn granted a request from the ACLU to stay deportations of those detained on entry to the United States following President Trump's executive order."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/refugees-...
"Judge Ann Donnelly of the US District Court in Brooklyn granted a request from the ACLU to stay deportations of those detained on entry to the United States following President Trump's executive order."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/refugees-...
Wow, it seems like US is a 24-hour reality show now.
If anyone thinks that this ruling is a surprise to the Trump administration, think again. I have no doubt that he conferred with his AG about his executive order and discuss possible outcomes such as a judge blocking his order. Maybe he expected this outcome?
Regardless, we'll see what his next move is.
Regardless, we'll see what his next move is.
Does anybody have experience with the logistics involved in organizing strangers against such actions?
A little OT, I guess, but the WaPo's story about this repeats a map I've seen that shows the seven countries.
Conspicuously absent are Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Lebanon, which is where the people who hijacked the 9/11 planes, the worst, and most logistically complex, terrorist act against the US ever, were from. Where's the logic? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks#FBI
I don't at all think that this order should be in effect, but I don't see the logic in its implementation.
Conspicuously absent are Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Lebanon, which is where the people who hijacked the 9/11 planes, the worst, and most logistically complex, terrorist act against the US ever, were from. Where's the logic? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks#FBI
I don't at all think that this order should be in effect, but I don't see the logic in its implementation.
No one seems to be talking about that fact that Trump can do these things because the Congress has specifically authorized the president to do so. It seems as though a massive amount of power in one person's hands is OK is some situations but not in others, depending on one's political persuasion.
And the list of countries is from Homeland Security's list of "countries of concern" compiled during the Obama administration. And signed into law by Obama himself.
https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-m...
Of course some will blast me as supporting Trump or supporting this ban. Not true.
And the list of countries is from Homeland Security's list of "countries of concern" compiled during the Obama administration. And signed into law by Obama himself.
https://sethfrantzman.com/2017/01/28/obamas-administration-m...
Of course some will blast me as supporting Trump or supporting this ban. Not true.
> "IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that to assure compliance with the Court's order, the Court directs service of this Order upon the United States Marshal for the Eastern District of New York, and further directs the United States Marshals Service to take those actions deemed necessary to enforce the provisions and prohibitions set for in this order."
Is the U.S. Marshals Service part of the judicial or executive branch?
(Source: https://www.aclu.org/legal-document/darweesh-v-trump-decisio...)
Is the U.S. Marshals Service part of the judicial or executive branch?
(Source: https://www.aclu.org/legal-document/darweesh-v-trump-decisio...)
While many Trump stories should be flagged, some are important for society and for HN to discuss.
This is one of those important stories. Americans can not stick their heads in the sand about these anti-muslim actions.
Please do not delete this story. The American and global tech community needs to discuss this. Trump and his advisors win when HN deletes stories like this.
This is one of those important stories. Americans can not stick their heads in the sand about these anti-muslim actions.
Please do not delete this story. The American and global tech community needs to discuss this. Trump and his advisors win when HN deletes stories like this.
This is an embarrassment.
Even if you completely agree with what the order does, it's impossible to claim that the implementation of this was anything other than a complete and utter disaster. No warning, no clear way to enforce the order, widespread protest, and getting the courts involved within 24 hours.
This is going to have ramifications for years to come. We want to encourage the world's best and brightest to come here, and a precedent of unannounced, widespread, severe changes to enforcement of the laws will cause people to reconsider.
This is utter negligence and I'm ashamed of my country.
Even if you completely agree with what the order does, it's impossible to claim that the implementation of this was anything other than a complete and utter disaster. No warning, no clear way to enforce the order, widespread protest, and getting the courts involved within 24 hours.
This is going to have ramifications for years to come. We want to encourage the world's best and brightest to come here, and a precedent of unannounced, widespread, severe changes to enforcement of the laws will cause people to reconsider.
This is utter negligence and I'm ashamed of my country.
Can US survive without "importing" OPEC Oil? bloom.bg/1O04ymn
CNN is reporting that the
White House over ruled the DHS when it came to green cards.
>Friday night, DHS arrived at the legal interpretation that the executive order restrictions applying to seven countries -- Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Sudan and Yemen -- did not apply to people who with lawful permanent residence, generally referred to as green card holders. The White House overruled that guidance overnight, according to officials familiar with the rollout. That order came from the President's inner circle, led by Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon. Their decision held that, on a case by case basis, DHS could allow green card holders to enter the US.
>Friday night, DHS arrived at the legal interpretation that the executive order restrictions applying to seven countries -- Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Sudan and Yemen -- did not apply to people who with lawful permanent residence, generally referred to as green card holders. The White House overruled that guidance overnight, according to officials familiar with the rollout. That order came from the President's inner circle, led by Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon. Their decision held that, on a case by case basis, DHS could allow green card holders to enter the US.