Yes exactly. The mids of my previous team where submitting PRs that at first glance looked good, well documented and with a very clean and professional English.
As you started pulling the threads it was, usually, a mess of subtle bugs and over abstraction. But to them it was great, as it was llm generated and they (the mid devs) had no better judgement.
At my previous company they have a series of smoke tests for models mostly focused on performance and architecture. I'm still on the team chat and results just came in:
- It's abohrrent at c++: it keeps generating code with data races and, more rarely, use-after-free bugs! It doesnt seem to be able to reason about lifetimes. This on a mostly mid/junior team. It's a bug fest.
- architecture in c++ is a verbose and layered mess even for simple things, which paired with the previous bugs I mentioned is scary.
- For rust obviously there's no use-after-free, but has same architecture pitfalls of layers upon layers. It uses copy and clone all over and performance is bad. Trying to unwrap all that is messy and costs lots of time. Once in a while it generates unsafe code for some non obvious reason
The scary stuff is non determinism. You get different depending on who prompts the agent but there's always some flavour of the points mentioned above. Funny that my team was very adamant on AI-first (why I left) and now they writting more and more code by hand after some very serious bugs and, as they say, dead moments where they have to wait, sometimes hours, and start wondering about the value of their skills, for the model to generate the next spaghetti recipe
Providers should host whatever they feel like hosting. Models were nost likely trained on stolen content, so not allowing vibecoded is taking a stance in favour of free software.
You people keep forgetting that free software is inherintly political and so platforms are more than wellcome of taking a stance. If you don't like don't use it. Quite simple
Yes, many years ago in college we would describe HN as "reddit with a college degree". The same " echo chamber" arguments, but more snob and with less spine
It's HN. They like to think they are better than reddit, but in the end this site is a huge echo box, and any outlier causes these reactions, particularly when it's something or someone taking a moral/ethical stance
Ahah you AI bros can't stop talking about Claude and llm, and telling stories of how great it was that one time, even when they are not the topic at hand.
> I've built multiple successful businesses in the last year. If you're doing this right you don't need your employer anymore.
As you started pulling the threads it was, usually, a mess of subtle bugs and over abstraction. But to them it was great, as it was llm generated and they (the mid devs) had no better judgement.