You're missing the point. I was only saying those things to show that arguing ethics and morals is bad because it's a never-ending self-imploding purity spiral. I am not trying to argue those views, nor am I refuting some argument because the replier is trying to claim some moral high ground.
The moral/ethical high ground argument just spirals.
Oh you drive a car? You should justify that to me.
Oh you bought any piece of clothing, tech, etc where it was made in countries with cheap labor and bad labor laws? You should justify that to me.
Oh you use electricity? Idk some of that is made via non-renewable resources.
Oh you eat meat? So much animal suffering and land is being wasted.
I get using an LLM has some problems. But I find it ironic that for most people, they didn't have a problem with any of this until it started to affect their job and their expertise.. And their paycheck.
Where was your outcry for anything else? Or is it just performative?
I sure hope you are also only using products and services derived from union labor.
Thank you; that is probably a better way to put into words what I am feeling.
I've never called myself a developer. But I've been playing with Linux and looking at code for the better part of 20 years.
I've done a lot of larger solution development. "Glue code," etc.
I think I use LLMs quite well. I mean, on some level, I understand software architecture and system architecture.
I've (before LLMs) had a master's degree, CISSP, Sec+, CEH. I am a pretty "qualified" person for whatever that means.
AI has made the chore work easy. It also allows me to think deeper about something than just bashing my head against code. Instead of spending time writing code, I'm researching technologies and thinking strategically about what something should look like years from now.
I've spent weeks and months, even on pet projects with LLMs. Things I use daily too.
But somehow "LLM coders don't care" is just annoying.
Hey, thanks for taking the time to reply. And you bring up some good points. I'll be the first person to tell someone I used Claude on this. Hell I make sure it says co-authored by claude on my github projects specifically because I'm not trying to hide the fact that I'm using LLMs.
I think you are correct, is not not really an LLM problem as much as its a person problem.
But there doesn't seem to be a good way to fix this. If anything LLMs just expose someone's integrity? I don't know, its a hard answer. Some people use LLMs just because they are translating languages.
I can see the point you are trying to make, and I'll make a counterpoint to that. When you play the "didn't earn" card, you are really getting nowhere. It's a bad argument.
It's putting up the gate, "I feel you didn't work hard enough for X result, but I did, so I must be better"
I drive a manual car. Should I hate every automatic car driver?
I have a master's degree in cybersecurity; should I shit on everyone who doesn't when they try to mention anything involving cybersecurity? I mean, I have a piece of paper that says I've earned it?
On some level, yes. I would listen to the advice of a doctor over a random person on the internet.
On another level, it's like saying, " Oh, you didn't have a blacksmith handcraft that knife for you, and you bought some machine-made knife? We should ban machine-made knives; the person making a knife using a machine didn't 'earn it '."
Perhaps you shouldn't create code; after all, you probably didn't develop a compiler. Or the computer chip running it... Or the OS.. Did you really earn the right to develop something?
Its why I built https://terrarose.org. while it only has a couple of users, and a couple of posts. Its a social media platform you have to pay 5 dollars a month for.
I've been using Opus 4.6-4.8 in both my own and others' code to look for vulnerabilities, and I've found a few. I am also in the Cyber Verification Program.
Fable 5 gives me policy violation errors at the moment. No idea when or if it will be fixed.
Just wanted to comment here: I have been using Opus 4.6, 4.7, and 4.8 just fine to look for Linux kernel vulnerabilities (I'm in the cyber verification program), and it's been fine. I switched to Claude Fable 5, and now I'm getting policy violations.
What's the point of being in the cyber verification program at this point? It looks like I cannot use Fable 5 for vulnerability research.
For everyone on an Intel MacBook, myself included, running Fedora 44 with t2.linux has been a breeze. About the only things not working are slow suspend/resume and a bit of a hacky workaround to fix the touchbar on resume (if you have one). Other than that, using the t2.Linux Fedora ISO has everything working right out of the box.
Looks awesome! I see some Flipper Zero apps were already created. When will you be releasing this for the Chameleon? Also, any plans to port this over to the Proxmark?
OS is solid, everything works, I'm happy.
The older I get the more I feel myself thinking like Linus. The OS should just get out of my way.