> Acknowledgements Special thanks to Jon Lee, Sicheng Liu, Chaomin Yu, and Chenglong Hao, who contributed to this post, and to the entire team that helped scale PostgreSQL. We’d also like to thank the Azure PostgreSQL team for their strong partnership.
People often underestimate how much impact the education of certain aspect (Infrastructure in China and Democracy in Westerner countries) has made to their values to a government, and meanwhile the education is controlled by the government to certain degree.
If I have to be precise with my natural languages sure, more closed on certain dimensions
Recent years efforts from these politicians make me believe we are heading towards the direction that one day it's not just certain dimensions but fully isolated.
Name one Chinese EV you can buy in U.S.
Name one U.S. EV you can buy in China
Now we want to do the same efforts for llm, not even allow to download to run locally that is specifically from China, and running llm doesn't even need Internet.
Honestly I've never heard such legislation in any other country, not even north korea or iran.
I can understand ban export, but banning import? Seriously? Even Kim Jong Un is riding with Mercedes.
Thinking from a different perspective, if the Chinese government has banned import of NVIDIA GPU, or downloading U.S. made llm because of so called national security reasons, DeepSeek certainly won't make such progress.
Today we are even more closed than CCP, what a joke. These elites'/attorney politicians just can't stop their arrogant attitude towards a non-western country's achievement. This is just going to destroy the industry at U.S.
U.S. even failed on military too as China recently demostrated their 6th-gen fighters, i.e. their own NGAD[1], while U.S. has paused the NGAD development.
Arrogance is the biggest enemy of U.S., not China.
Everytime when there is some achievement made by Chinese companies, there are always comments like "what about tiananmen square", "I won't trust companies under CCP supervision", "must be fake propaganda", and then being ignorant to the achievement and biased against the not-us-made models, and not focusing on the actual technical part of the achievement itself, like how they can make training so fast and what can we learn from it. Beyond that some US startup CEO even starts spreading rumors like they have 50000 H100 while the paper and model are open sourced since older versions of deepseek that everyone can reproduce and verify it, the theoretical compute need is calculable from model architect.
Sure sure that censorship is a problem, but that's a political background everyone knows, while none of the researchers of deepseek can do much about it, and literally do people think Chinese people like to put more efforts to censor LLM output?
Associate researchers with CCP without any evidence and being ignorant to their achievement is really insulting to deepseek researchers' hardworks.
The fact that we need a such complicated datetime library just means so many unncessary artificial complexities were introduced before (yes the daylight saving, leap seconds etc.)
because lawmakers never intended to ban TikTok and its content, that is just a cover for Preventing CCP from making money from it, it's not a good-will law for its people but rather for capitalist, which is why selling TikTok was also provided as an option.
I am sure if TikTok is owned by a western countries wouldn't yield into a result of lawmakers creating laws that is doing something very similar as CCP does, that is, operating Internet based service requires the company to be owned by a Chinese entity at majority, that is exactly the reason why Google quits China, and we used to dispise what CCP does, now we are like "CCP is doing the good stuff and we should follow"
That isn’t remotely true. They're not banned outright. Things like iCloud and Bing still work in China because Microsoft and Apple are willing to register a company that is owned by a Chinese owned majority and accepts audit, there is a legal fundamental for that in China's law for this. Now we are just doing exactly the same at US.
Pretending China/Russia/Iran companies are evil while US companies are not because of some preconceived notion is a great way to let that world order crumble.
> Author Bohan Zhang
> Acknowledgements Special thanks to Jon Lee, Sicheng Liu, Chaomin Yu, and Chenglong Hao, who contributed to this post, and to the entire team that helped scale PostgreSQL. We’d also like to thank the Azure PostgreSQL team for their strong partnership.