> science says that we are confident Higgs Boson exists ( 5-sigma).
Agreed, Science comes from our experience/understanding of things around us by our senses. Try to explain the above Higgs Boson to a blind person who has never seen anything in their life. As long as science explains stuff that can be experienced by the senses, everybody else with similar senses get them.
> Epistemologically they are apples and oranges!
Its all in our thought process. Everything came from our thinking/undertsanding of things around us. It just happened to be that we are closer to prove somethings easily vs others.
> ... using the scientific method is sheer staggering and amazing
> The amount of data accessible to the people in the past is a lot more when compared to current.
Appreciated the hardwork done by all these determined people. How did only few people have access to such knowledge ? In order to find the truth we should not be biased. The reason why people in the older generations might not have shared such knowledge is to prevent mis-use of it, for better of mankind. While we take pride in such innovations.
As i see, the current science is more rigorous because people are producing lot of crap. So, we made it to be like "if it can't be verified/repeatable its not science". But do we really know for sure ? How many discoveries are being overridden by new discoveries coming from future ?
The amount of data accessible to the people in the past is a lot more when compared to current. Thats why there able to explain things that can't be experienced by our senses. To share such things in the current time, the "can be verified by our senses by a independent vendor ?" rule rejects. So, very few people experience them and bring it down to such a level that every human gets benefited from it.
The division between religion/science is very small, when both are approached using similar thought-process. Its just that some rules reject others. As human we need to approach and find truth for oneself without being biased.
"thought process" is what distinguishes humans from others in terms of deciding whats right/wrong, (finding the truth) its not just science.
Here is a difference i have observed between science/religion. In religion, we try to reject things rather than try to find true meaning (via thought process or practice). Which is really difficult in this time as "i can go buy pizza in 5 mins" kinda mindset.
One more way we use reasoning is "if i didn't experience (via the senses) it doesn't exist". It takes time, really long time for the people (in tech terminology scientists, in religion terminology saints) to understand the universe and give us peace. Both religion/science are true. Religion talks about things which can't be experienced by our senses, but gain peace. While Science talks about the other, where the gain seem to be human advancement (to where ?). This may sound confusing at beginning, as it was to me. But, if we go through the same struggle of finding the truth, we will get it.
/Just like most other religious texts, the Vedas don't stand up to modern science and rigor/ -- There is no such thing as modern science. Its the same universe that existed billions of years ago and with our "thought process" we are able to understand it better (compared to what was written in the past) and are calling it modern now. Go forward 100 years and look back at current science. What is it called as now ?
/dividing india into castes by religion/ -- This is completely humans fault. What Bhagavadgita explained were the variety of things people do to get tired/frustrated in this place and get enlightened. Look at the meaning of division without the caste mirror. You see the same set of things happening everywhere in the world. a) People who are good at protecting others b) People who are good at taking care of the mess created by others c) people who are good at providing things to others c) People who are good at understanding things and sharing the knowledge with society. At some point, this whole thing got misunderstood, misinterpreted and exploited for ones selfishness. We are paying the price now. But, the same things explained still holds true everywhere in the world.
"universe is also ancient, why are we still exploring it, by calling such a process as science" ?
The answer is simple. "Human Thirst for knowledge never ends" and nobody really knows for sure where they are headed.
"The present" which we feel really proud of, will be called ancient and worthless in the future. Because, the knowledge of humans increases with time (or understanding of nature increases with generations, some become dumb over time as well)
"The future" few people have envisioned it (saints in ancient form - who didn't expect anything from anybody but wanted to spread the knowledge, "visionaries" in the current business world - who want to rule the world with money, etc)
"stand the test time" just because they are not accessible doesn't mean they didnt' stand the test time. We keep discovering the same things whichever has been told in the past and the same things will happen in future as well. Its just that we love to call it with different names.
Someone has to connect the dots. Nobody has time in the current world. Everyone just moves on.
Agreed, Science comes from our experience/understanding of things around us by our senses. Try to explain the above Higgs Boson to a blind person who has never seen anything in their life. As long as science explains stuff that can be experienced by the senses, everybody else with similar senses get them.
> Epistemologically they are apples and oranges!
Its all in our thought process. Everything came from our thinking/undertsanding of things around us. It just happened to be that we are closer to prove somethings easily vs others.
> ... using the scientific method is sheer staggering and amazing > The amount of data accessible to the people in the past is a lot more when compared to current.
Appreciated the hardwork done by all these determined people. How did only few people have access to such knowledge ? In order to find the truth we should not be biased. The reason why people in the older generations might not have shared such knowledge is to prevent mis-use of it, for better of mankind. While we take pride in such innovations.