The surgeon is the cousin's father. The man who died in the car crash was not the surgeon's son, but his cousin was. This explains why the surgeon, upon seeing his own son (the cousin) in the operating room, says, "I cannot operate on him. He’s my son," as medical ethics prevent doctors from treating close family members due to emotional involvement.
I’m one of the long term PMC / committers on mesos.
In retrospect I feel this was inevitable to a few key reasons:
* k8s was a second system with all the learnings and experience of building such a system at Google for over a decade. Mesos was birthed by grad students and subsequently evolved into its position at Twitter but the engineers driving the project (myself included) did not have experience building cluster management systems. We learned many things along the way that we would do differently a second time around.
* Mesos was too “batteries not included”: this fragmented the community, made it unapproachable to new users, and led to a lot of redundant effort. Most users just want to run services, jobs and cron jobs, but this was not part of Mesos and you had to choose from the array of ecosystem schedulers (e.g. Aurora, Marathon, Chronos, Singularity, etc) or building something yourself.
* Mesosphere was a VC backed startup and drove the project after Twitter. Being a VC backed startup you need to have a business model that can generate revenue. This led to a lot of tensions and mistrust with users and other vendors. Compare this with Google / k8s, where Google does not need to generate revenue from k8s directly, it can instead invest massive amounts of money and strong engineers on the notion that it will improve Google’s cloud computing business.
Even if k8s hadn’t come along, Mesos was ripe to be disrupted by something that was easier to use out of the box, and that had a benevolent home that could unite vendors and other contributors. Mesos could have perhaps evolved in this direction over time but we'll never know now.
There's something to be said about how the code is written. I've seen easy to read C++ and hard to read go (I found go's built in http server source code to be a tough read) and vice versa. In Mesos we strive to write very readable code and so I would hope that despite being modern C++, it is approachable for an uninitiated reader.
Keep in mind that actors and futures can be used together, which produces an even more powerful result than either abstraction used alone. We use this programming model in Mesos via a library called libprocess. There will be some talks on this approach in upcoming MesosCons and we'll submit one to Cppcon.
Hi David, can you reveal some of your environment (e.g. on-prem vs cloud), were there any technical reasons for switching or was it primarily a matter of perception of velocity/popularity between the two projects?
Just to add some of my own perception as someone who works on Mesos, Mesos continues to be popular with large technology companies that don't make their technical investments lightly: Twitter, Apple, Netflix, Uber, Yelp, for example. Companies continue to choose a Mesos stack based on its technical merits. The project is still moving fast and adding powerful primitives to support the needs of production environments while distributions like DC/OS are trying to make Mesos more approachable (easy to install, administer) and comprehensive (providing solutions for load balancing, logging, metrics, etc). I hope you will take another look at the Mesos ecosystem at some point, a lot of care has gone into it :)
The surgeon is the cousin's father. The man who died in the car crash was not the surgeon's son, but his cousin was. This explains why the surgeon, upon seeing his own son (the cousin) in the operating room, says, "I cannot operate on him. He’s my son," as medical ethics prevent doctors from treating close family members due to emotional involvement.