The woke left has not. Look at the Map advocacy. Multiple breadtubers(vaush, contrapoints) have defended pedophilia and said the child adult distinction is a false power dynamic. Nevermind drag time story hour.
It's not just about now. Who knows what happens in the future.
Eastern Europe was fractured and weak following World War One. A huge invasion still came twenty years later. This is a game played out in centuries, not 20 years. The future is unpredictable. Russians leaders plan in that world.
If there was a kingdom hundreds of years ago, and every printing press was owned by a church that did not allow itself to be criticized, no one in their right mind would say that kingdom had free speech.
That is the current situation in the west with social media and the woke religion.
As someone who has one, only minor traffic violations. And only in certain places (cops not in the northeast generally are not unionized and dont honor them. ) It's not a get out of jail free card like it's being described.
Rules are useless without a policemen capable of enforcing them. They are at best suggestions, if not simple propoganda for domestic consumption. This is made even worse when the supposed policemen break their own rules as well (Kosovo). I say all this as an ardent American nationalist.
States have always existed in a state of anarchy and act as you would expect them.
Would you have an issue if we put "suspected paedophile and open paedophile apologist" in the opening lines for philosophers like Foucault, Sarte and gore vidal? Those are also objective facts.
I would rather have dinner with a antisemite than a paedophile.
In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all, By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul; But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."
I have not heard a convincing argument that true right or wrong can exists outside of a universe with a monotheistic God.
Do you believe you morality is more right than a Nazis or a pedophiles?
If so, you need a justification of why your morality is more ultimately correct and truly "good and better." I have not heard a convincing one that ultimately doesn't end in a monotheistic God.
And if not, what are we even doing in this conversation? There can be no moral progress without an objectively better standard that we are attempting to discover.
Yeah, this is the fundamental disagreement. When discussing morality, I'm not talking about what you are. It is a law that overrides all of us, with true right and true wrong. Without a monotheistic God, these don't exist and morality doesn't either.
The morality your discussing is completely different.
1. This view also takes the idea that morality can be reached by reason on faith I am not saying I fully disagree, but even the concept of morality at its core is not rational.
2. It is possible to be religious and do good for the sake of good. Most religious people I know do. I would hope that even if I knew I was going to hell, I would still live the rest of my life on accordance with God's will as it is the right thing to do.
I am not claiming to have perfect vision of this order, but I am asserting that it exists and we have no choice but to sit in it's judgment. We can argue and and discuss about the specifics, but when I and other religious people are discussing morality, that is what we are trying to do. To make our morals and actions more in line with the ultimate objective morality.
I do not mean this as a flame, but I honestly do not understand why a person who believes in subjective morality would even discuss morality at all. If all morality is simply in the eye of the beholder, moral progress is impossible and it is not possible for one view to be superior to another.
What is morality? It is not a physical material phenomenon and it is not scientific, so if it exists it is by definition supernatural or its synonym metaphysical
Once you are discussing the supernatural, you are discussing religion.
Subjective morality is ultimately simple preferance and ultimately just a battle of wills. I, and most other religious people, do not consider such a "moral order" to be morality at all.
Objective morality, with a judge above all judges who is justice itself, is the only way "justice" and morality mean anything at all.
Reading dostoesvsky brought my back to the church on a spiritual and emotional level, and the Abolition of Man and Mere Christianity bt CS Lewis brought me back on an emotional level.
Catholic priests are less likely than the general population to be predators. You only hear about it because the media Is hostile to the church. School districts across the country have done similar things in terms of cover ups but I don't hear the outage there.