8654395 · HackerTrans

vor 13 Jahrendiscuss

I never said I expected them to accept a court order without verification. Simply that there should not be discretion on their part if proper estate documents are presented. They have made it clear that they have discretion, so the account itself it not actually considered part of the estate by Google.

8654395

vor 13 Jahrendiscuss

Throwaway account just to post this. Of course the Feds will have access to whatever they deem necessary even if it takes them time to get the pieces in place. It's the users who ultimately lose the most.

I'm learning the hard way just how much the user is the one ultimately screwed when it comes to account access. My father just recently died very unexpectedly and tragically. He was generally retired but still doing a dozen or so small tech consulting projects here and there and using his personal accounts on Gmail/Facebook/etc. for everything.

Facebook simply will not give any family member access to a deceased person's account. Google will consider it after you fill out a form and send them a bunch of documentation. Then they will consider and may possibly end up sending you off to get a court order and the like, but you're entirely subject to their own decision about whether you can get access to your deceased family member's main form of personal and business communication. You do not own your Gmail account, regardless of the shit they spout about you being able to download your data using takeout. If your estate can't get "your" data, you didn't really own it.

Yes, I know there are steps that could have been taken to have given access to others on the event of one's death, but realistically what percentage of Gmail/Facebook users have taken those steps? And why should those accounts be different from normal digital accounts like bank accounts where a standard court estate document is enough?

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