72 hours to launch Celebrate Pride(code.facebook.com)
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72 hours to launch Celebrate Pride
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Serious answer here.
I am a man married to a man. I dislike "Pride" events and tacky rainbows, and the language used on my behalf by some of the activist types in my demographic, and I'd be happy to engage you with a sincere defense of "Pride" given those qualifications.
But:
I say we change the name to "self pride" days/parades and everyone can be happy about themselves and it can be inclusive to every group then.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9821964
When you start talking like that, you've given up pretending that your original question was sincere. You're trying to make a point, not trying to understand. Let's absolutely have these conversations, but please begin them honestly.
I am a man married to a man. I dislike "Pride" events and tacky rainbows, and the language used on my behalf by some of the activist types in my demographic, and I'd be happy to engage you with a sincere defense of "Pride" given those qualifications.
But:
I say we change the name to "self pride" days/parades and everyone can be happy about themselves and it can be inclusive to every group then.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9821964
When you start talking like that, you've given up pretending that your original question was sincere. You're trying to make a point, not trying to understand. Let's absolutely have these conversations, but please begin them honestly.
We need it because there are quite a few people in America who do not believe in equality in the least, even though they may say they do. Being gay is a choice...it's a choice to believe in who you really are, and not try to be something you're not, and furthermore, to LOVE whoever you become. For a white, heterosexual, adult man like myself, that choice comes with no pre-defined societal restrictions. But stray from any one of those character traits, and suddenly society finds you reprehensible. I'm not saying the choice to believe in and love yourself is any harder or easier for anyone on the planet, but what I am saying is that inherently, there are a lot of hurdles to get over when one chooses to "come out" as being gay.
A member of my band is gay, and he spent several years during the first years I knew him hiding that fact from the world. Only when I began to really get closer to him did I find out his "secret". He asked me if I cared, and the look in his eyes was that of fear. Fear that I would immediately reject him because of his internal chemistry. But I didn't, and we remain friends and band-mates to this day. He later grew up a bit and came to find out that being gay isn't so bad, in fact there are a lot of things about being gay that are rewarding and awesome. He's much more comfortable in who he is today, and much happier as a result of it. His choice to act upon and embrace his homosexuality, rather than shy away from it, made him an all-around better person.
That's pride.
A member of my band is gay, and he spent several years during the first years I knew him hiding that fact from the world. Only when I began to really get closer to him did I find out his "secret". He asked me if I cared, and the look in his eyes was that of fear. Fear that I would immediately reject him because of his internal chemistry. But I didn't, and we remain friends and band-mates to this day. He later grew up a bit and came to find out that being gay isn't so bad, in fact there are a lot of things about being gay that are rewarding and awesome. He's much more comfortable in who he is today, and much happier as a result of it. His choice to act upon and embrace his homosexuality, rather than shy away from it, made him an all-around better person.
That's pride.
But pride in being who you are? I mean....okay I guess and I get the point you are trying to make and the tough experiences people have. But....
I say we change the name to "self pride" days/parades and everyone can be happy about themselves and it can be inclusive to every group then.
I say we change the name to "self pride" days/parades and everyone can be happy about themselves and it can be inclusive to every group then.
They aren't called gay pride anymore, just pride. Almost everyone is welcome.
"The poison is shame. The antidote is pride"
The Allusionist podcast had a episode about why the word "pride" was intensionally used. Others in this thread have mentioned societal shame that was put on gays. But it was more than that. It was also a deep internal shame and self-hate that many homosexuals felt about themselves.
And remember, this was started in the late 1960's when it was almost unheard of for someone to come out and be open about being gay.
http://www.theallusionist.org/allusionist/pride
The Allusionist podcast had a episode about why the word "pride" was intensionally used. Others in this thread have mentioned societal shame that was put on gays. But it was more than that. It was also a deep internal shame and self-hate that many homosexuals felt about themselves.
And remember, this was started in the late 1960's when it was almost unheard of for someone to come out and be open about being gay.
http://www.theallusionist.org/allusionist/pride
It's not so much pride like in an accomplishment, but rather pride in contrast to the shame that society enforced.
To counter oppression. It's not so much "pride" in the sense of an achievement, but in the sense of not feeling shame for who you are, and publicly asserting that. It's also valuable from a visibility standpoint.
So basically we should have "Irish Pride", "Polish Pride", "Jewish Pride" etc. days as well? Plenty of groups have overcome oppression but don't really have pride days. Just seems a bit weird.
So maybe something like Irish-American Heritage Month (March), Polish American Heritage Month (October), or Jewish American Heritage Month (May)?
I take it you've not seen any major city on St Patrick's Day.. ;)
There's nothing that says any oppressed group can't designate their own pride celebration. I think you're making a common mistake in seeing the existence of this phenomenon that is tied to a certain class (or related group of classes) of people, and interpreting that existence as being somehow normative for all similar classes of people.
It's not.
It's not.
Plenty of groups have overcome oppression, agreed. Many of the groups that march in Pride parades are not among those groups. If you want to make an argument based on ethnicity, then a close analogue would probably be black Americans -- who do have some Pride-like events, e.g. Black History Month.
I'm reminded of when people complain about Black History Month and ask, "When's White History Month, eh?" And the answer is that every month is White History Month. Because white people have more or less wiped black people out of popular history. This erasure is just as present for LGBTQ+ people.
I'm reminded of when people complain about Black History Month and ask, "When's White History Month, eh?" And the answer is that every month is White History Month. Because white people have more or less wiped black people out of popular history. This erasure is just as present for LGBTQ+ people.
Where exactly do you live that you have not seen these kinds of days and events and parades and so on all the time?
(If you're American, I don't know how you can live in the US and not have noticed this)
(If you're American, I don't know how you can live in the US and not have noticed this)
Pride is largely a reaction to society's attempts to shame people. Plus the parades are a big party, which shouldn't need further explanation.
On the subject of the original post, that failure rate graph looks surprisingly high... at least it shows I'm not the only one it didn't work for.
On the subject of the original post, that failure rate graph looks surprisingly high... at least it shows I'm not the only one it didn't work for.
Words are politics, particularly for people who are traditionally disenfranchised. In a sense, the constant fine-tuning of speech for desired connotations is a way to get the feeling of control over an uncontrollable situation.
I guess what I'm saying is some things just don't have a logical explanation, but that's what happens when you have all these billions of people in the world.
I guess what I'm saying is some things just don't have a logical explanation, but that's what happens when you have all these billions of people in the world.
Because of oppression/trials/tribulations.
I think I know what you mean. I guess it's quite comparable to people who are proud of being born in their contries.
In my opinion, pride is kind of the wrong word for that. I think what is often called pride is actually the will to (publicly) stand by who they are. With the parades they can express that. Maybe it's a "we know you hate us for being different, but we are many, so it's quite normal to be gay" thing.
I think, though, that they can be proud of themselves when they publicly stand by their sexual orientation in a world full homophobics.
In my opinion, pride is kind of the wrong word for that. I think what is often called pride is actually the will to (publicly) stand by who they are. With the parades they can express that. Maybe it's a "we know you hate us for being different, but we are many, so it's quite normal to be gay" thing.
I think, though, that they can be proud of themselves when they publicly stand by their sexual orientation in a world full homophobics.
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Pretty cool! It would be nice if they could adapt it for use in other things; for example profile pictures that raise awareness of things like SOPA/CISPA/TPP/etc.
I could imagine them not wanting to saturate Facebook with a new thing every week so it would probably be limited, and I could also imagine them not wanting to take risks by supporting political action that isn't as popular.
I could imagine them not wanting to saturate Facebook with a new thing every week so it would probably be limited, and I could also imagine them not wanting to take risks by supporting political action that isn't as popular.
+1 would love to see something like this for the BDS movement. In 2015 some people still don't recognize Palestinians have rights.
There is no reason for Facebook to impose their politics on their users. FB can create general tools for users to customize and share.
Okay, now I'm curious: how'd they manage to get O(n^2) asymptotic complexity out of what looks like a relatively simple semi-transparent photo overlay?
Probably a double for loop iterating over each row of pixels and then each pixel in each row (or column).
That sounds like it would only touch each pixel once: the minimum amount of times.
Right, that's why I'm confused. If n is the number of pixels, then 4 million operations would be linear-time as far as I can tell. Wonder if the author took n to be the width/height of the image.
I can't think of any previous historic moment in my life where a statement of solidarity was so important and yet so easy to make. Progress in the fight against prejudice is easily lost. I can't help but think about the Vienna museum exhibit I saw exploring the status of Jews over hundred of years and how many times periods of tolerance were followed by repression.
Having as many people as possible take this moment to say that we are not going back matters,and these photos do not just reach the 'quire' ie the friends of the supporters that are likely to be supporters themselves - Facebook profile pictures appear in miniature form in ads all over the web. Google profile pictures also appear in ads all over the web and are probably even better at reaching the eyeballs of the general public. I had hoped Google would also set up a similar sort of overlay mechanism, but I see no signs and this window of opportunity will be all too brief.
Having as many people as possible take this moment to say that we are not going back matters,and these photos do not just reach the 'quire' ie the friends of the supporters that are likely to be supporters themselves - Facebook profile pictures appear in miniature form in ads all over the web. Google profile pictures also appear in ads all over the web and are probably even better at reaching the eyeballs of the general public. I had hoped Google would also set up a similar sort of overlay mechanism, but I see no signs and this window of opportunity will be all too brief.
It was nice of them to make it voluntary.
Nice! Although it never worked for my profile picture, it would always error :(
No fair!
Serious question here. If being gay is not a choice but a preference you have at birth why do we need pride and parades? I mean it's not like you did anything or chose to be that way, you just kind of are.
As a person who supports equality, no matter race, sex, religion, etc. this has always perplexed me.