Write Less JavaScript(avandamiri.com)
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Write Less JavaScript
http://avandamiri.com/2014/12/15/write-less-javascript.html
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This made me angry. Why does this page need any JavaScript whatsoever? Why doesn't it just use a plain ol' HTML form and some CSS?
I've been trying to come up with a benefit to the user for having javascript on the page and am drawing a blank.
>I dont know what people have against JavaScript
It's the PHP of this generation of web developers. A bunch of guys with inflated egos cramming tens of kilobytes of js into pages that need zero, all for a worse UX.
I've been trying to come up with a benefit to the user for having javascript on the page and am drawing a blank.
>I dont know what people have against JavaScript
It's the PHP of this generation of web developers. A bunch of guys with inflated egos cramming tens of kilobytes of js into pages that need zero, all for a worse UX.
Not having to refresh the page with each click?
It's disruptive, slower and more expensive to submit the form through HTML, the rest of the page (you can see a snippet in the video) needs to be built again, which means more database queries which are not needed. Furthermore, the rest of the form does not depend on the first answer. There's really no reason to completely rebuild the page again. That's the benefit.
I do agree with you that Javascript is fundamentally just as flawed a language as PHP and it attracts the same kind of developers. Some really talented ones, mostly mediocre ones.
When I have to use Javascript I feel like I'm working against the language instead of with it.
It's disruptive, slower and more expensive to submit the form through HTML, the rest of the page (you can see a snippet in the video) needs to be built again, which means more database queries which are not needed. Furthermore, the rest of the form does not depend on the first answer. There's really no reason to completely rebuild the page again. That's the benefit.
I do agree with you that Javascript is fundamentally just as flawed a language as PHP and it attracts the same kind of developers. Some really talented ones, mostly mediocre ones.
When I have to use Javascript I feel like I'm working against the language instead of with it.
> A bunch of guys with inflated egos cramming tens of kilobytes of js into pages that need zero, all for a worse UX.
LOL
Yeah because that 14.4K modem is a huge problem. In a time of retina display, 500K is not an issue at all. Lets talk about micro optimization ...
> Why doesn't it just use a plain ol' HTML form and some CSS?
Have you heard the performance of using React and famo.us ?
LOL
Yeah because that 14.4K modem is a huge problem. In a time of retina display, 500K is not an issue at all. Lets talk about micro optimization ...
> Why doesn't it just use a plain ol' HTML form and some CSS?
Have you heard the performance of using React and famo.us ?
This is wrong in so many levels.
Have you ever heard about React and the advantage of the virtual DOM. And about famo.us
For toy projects like this, I guess this is fine. But lets get real....
For toy projects like this, I guess this is fine. But lets get real....
Ugg, hate the idea of having logic in my CSS. CSS is for style information. How things should look, not what should be shown. "whenever possible" also rings alarm bells for me. There should be one place for logic.
HTML is also View if you ask me and I like to keep my Model separate from my View.
I dont know what people have against JavaScript. I say write more javaScript and less HTML and CSS.