Secure Mail for Devs(developermail.io)

58 pointsby DaGardnervor 12 Jahren22 comments

https://developermail.io/

10 comments

Looks interesting, but without more details on what you can configure or how much it will cost, it's hard to get excited.

ins0vor 12 Jahren

yes agree. a little bit more information would be nice

TheHippovor 12 Jahren

I find it really annoying if you have to watch a 1:20 minute video just to get a rough idea how their service works.

0x0vor 12 Jahren

The entire video is simply a terminal session, not even doing any curses-like. Why not just paste the terminal session output in a <pre> block? Would have saved me 1:15.

Also, bug report: If you seek to very close to the end, the timer shows 1:21 and keeps counting with nothing happening on the screen... I was wondering why he didn't hit enter after typing "ls matte" and let the timer run to 2 minutes...

gortokvor 12 Jahren

It says secure, but I see no mention of encryption or legal protections that would make it so. If you're going to use the word 'secure', it has to mean more than "hosted in a country that is known to bow to the USA."

sashkvor 12 Jahren

Their FAQ mentions luks. I guess, their storage is encrypted.

andorvor 12 Jahren

But how is it decrypted after booting? Is the service down until they login and mount the drives manually?

mattesvor 12 Jahren

Hey, Chris & Matt here. We are the guys behind developermail.io and we really appreciate all your comments and feedback! We are in a private beta phase at the moment and will be sending invitation keys to more people very soon.

There were a lot of questions regarding security and privacy, so we preponed the release of the updated website. Please check it out and let us know what you think: developermail.io

You can reach out to us at [email protected] also.

Have a great week and thanks for your support! Chris & Matt

mattesvor 12 Jahren

We want to build an awesome product! Can you help us by taking the following survey: http://goo.gl/forms/KHp5BimFs6 (takes ~3 minutes)

insertnicknamevor 12 Jahren

>Our __bare-metal__ servers are located in Germany.

I've seen this term used a lot recently to describe dedicated servers, even Leaseweb does it now. Someone please tell me why.

rsyncvor 12 Jahren

They're saying that as opposed to virtual servers or server instances, they have actual physical servers.

arochvor 12 Jahren

This isn't a recent term at all? Back in the 90's people were selling dedicated, unmanaged hardware as "bare metal" servers. Bare metal simply refers to the fact that they're handing you an assembled server only -- you need to install an OS and configure it.

javajoshvor 12 Jahren

"Hosted in Germany" is a good selling point, and that is incredibly sad to me. America has lost so much in just 15 years.

vonuebelgartenvor 12 Jahren

I'm not German, but I understand Germany is very strong in the personal rights department and have a serious separation between government and state, which minimizes the influence of the gov-of-the-day on business matters -- maybe I'm wrong here (again: not German), but I understood Merkel's government freaking out about the possibility of Snowden asking asylum in Germany because, despite the governmental dislike, it was a State affair and they couldn't do nothing to prevent it if he reached German territory.

Anyway, I feel Germany is a wonderful country and this kind of marketing is somewhat of a international recognition for that.

okatsuvor 12 Jahren

Is it a selling point with much substance, though? Genuinely curious. Seems to me that if the American government wanted your data for some reason, obtaining it from Germany wouldn't be so hard.

javajoshvor 12 Jahren

I am not an expert on these matters, but I would imagine that the process for legally obtaining data from foreign countries is both more difficult and more public (a National Security Letter would have no teeth in Germany). Additionally, Germany has a better reputation (perhaps unearned?) for privacy rights, especially as the greatest pillar of the liberal EU, and because when the NSA bugged Merkel's cell phone they soured the intelligence relationship considerably.

juntovor 12 Jahren

I live in Germany. It appears to me that the outrage from the government was largely theatre for the public, than serious. There is an election coming up.

cache87vor 12 Jahren

Postfix when installed has pretty good defaults and works safely pretty much out of the box. Are people actually looking for third-parties like developermail when it's really not that hard?

hibbeligvor 12 Jahren

What about spam? What about antivirus? What about mail filtering rules?

arochvor 12 Jahren

Something like Sovereign[1] is your friend then

[1] https://github.com/al3x/sovereign

adamrtvor 12 Jahren

While I agree with other posters that there could be a bit more information, I think the git based config is a pretty interesting approach.

Nice work guy, look forward to seeing it a bit more fleshed out.

[deleted]vor 12 Jahren

BillFranklinvor 12 Jahren

I'd like some more info on the security side.