Please rate our new landing page.(dragdis.com)
dragdis.com
Please rate our new landing page.
https://dragdis.com/index-b?utm_expid=62885031-0.MT689rjeTqy8Wox1xf0bSg.1
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The main text says "Drag & drop anything anywhere," so naturally I selected some text on the site and tried to drag it around. Nothing happened.
Agree. Why you guys don't just embed it as expandable sidebar on your website to get real taste how Dragdis works?
I did the same thing.
If you're going to the site with no prior knowledge of what it is and follow the instructions, it seems broken.
If you're going to the site with no prior knowledge of what it is and follow the instructions, it seems broken.
We were thinking about it, but we figured it will confuse users as they will think that you can sort of drag&drop things only on Dragdis. I know not the most intelligent thought to have, but it's really not clear for average user that you need to visit some other website and drag there. And this would only confuse them even more.
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Thank you for your comments! http://dragd.is/iY2XH
How about something like
"Drag & drop anything anywhere with Dragdis", makes it more obvious it's a product not just something on that page
"Drag & drop anything anywhere with Dragdis", makes it more obvious it's a product not just something on that page
Some feedback from an Evenote Premium customer who uses their Web Clipper 50 times a day:
1. Love the autoplaying videos – it's very easy to understand how the service works at a quick glance, and the UI looks slick.
2. You could tell us if it's free, paid, or freemium. I'm less likely to try a web app that doesn't explain up front what it costs to use it.
3. If it's free, it might be worth reassuring people how you expect to keep it running. (e.g. "Use it free or go PRO and get x, y, and z.") I feel nervous about collecting thousands of links and images in a free web app I've never heard of that has no clear business model in place.
4. In the first video, dragging-and-dropping a link to bookmark a page looks like a sluggish process that I wouldn't want to repeat many times a day, possibly because the location bar and your interface are at opposite sides of the browser. Perhaps mention if there are shortcut keys to dump bookmarks and file them later? Evernote's Web Clipper has a bunch of keyboard shortcuts (http://d.pr/i/FlIl ) – it feels like using vim once you learn them, and I wouldn't want to go back to a drag-and-drop only experience.
1. Love the autoplaying videos – it's very easy to understand how the service works at a quick glance, and the UI looks slick.
2. You could tell us if it's free, paid, or freemium. I'm less likely to try a web app that doesn't explain up front what it costs to use it.
3. If it's free, it might be worth reassuring people how you expect to keep it running. (e.g. "Use it free or go PRO and get x, y, and z.") I feel nervous about collecting thousands of links and images in a free web app I've never heard of that has no clear business model in place.
4. In the first video, dragging-and-dropping a link to bookmark a page looks like a sluggish process that I wouldn't want to repeat many times a day, possibly because the location bar and your interface are at opposite sides of the browser. Perhaps mention if there are shortcut keys to dump bookmarks and file them later? Evernote's Web Clipper has a bunch of keyboard shortcuts (http://d.pr/i/FlIl ) – it feels like using vim once you learn them, and I wouldn't want to go back to a drag-and-drop only experience.
This is really really helpful! Thank you so much!
We are working on integrating Dragdis with Evernote, so that on the sidebar you would see your notebooks and could drag to them.
The main value is not just to save stuff, but to save it in an organized way, that means in a particular notebook. You wouldn't be able to do that with keyboard shortcuts.
Let me know what you think!
Thanks!
We are working on integrating Dragdis with Evernote, so that on the sidebar you would see your notebooks and could drag to them.
The main value is not just to save stuff, but to save it in an organized way, that means in a particular notebook. You wouldn't be able to do that with keyboard shortcuts.
Let me know what you think!
Thanks!
Product looks pretty cool.
However, I'll give you a -5/10 for another tiny font size and font weight product page. Even Apple who, as far as I can tell, originated that style, doesn't go for such extremes.
There's no way anyone on a large screen is going to read the minuscule body copy.
"I really love how the tiny font almost blends into the background and forces me to squint", said no one ever.
I don't think the video background works either, it's too distracting, and makes the headline hard to read when it blends too much with the background color.
The headline is also fairly weak and lacks clarity. Your product is only tangentially about dragging and dropping. On the other hand, I can't see how you can avoid talking about bookmarking or "saving for later", which seems to be the main purpose. So I would mention that somewhere in the headline/subhead.
The fact it's in the cloud seems to me to be a point of parity at best, given that Chrome can already sync your bookmarks by itself. Same with Evernote.
Besides, the formulation is a bit clumsy given that I do not want to drop what I'm saving just anywhere. I want it to be organized. I want to drop it where I can find it.
My guess is that you mean I can drag and drop it from anywhere, but again, that's kind of a platitudinous feature these days.
The main benefit I see in the product is that it gives me a higher level of granularity as I can save sub-elements of a page directly, instead of bookmarking a whole page, or resorting to a third party, out-of-the-browser program to save and organize e.g. images independently. So it seems to allow me to save exactly what I need, more easily.
(Note that I have no idea if something similar already exists).
However, I'll give you a -5/10 for another tiny font size and font weight product page. Even Apple who, as far as I can tell, originated that style, doesn't go for such extremes.
There's no way anyone on a large screen is going to read the minuscule body copy.
"I really love how the tiny font almost blends into the background and forces me to squint", said no one ever.
I don't think the video background works either, it's too distracting, and makes the headline hard to read when it blends too much with the background color.
The headline is also fairly weak and lacks clarity. Your product is only tangentially about dragging and dropping. On the other hand, I can't see how you can avoid talking about bookmarking or "saving for later", which seems to be the main purpose. So I would mention that somewhere in the headline/subhead.
The fact it's in the cloud seems to me to be a point of parity at best, given that Chrome can already sync your bookmarks by itself. Same with Evernote.
Besides, the formulation is a bit clumsy given that I do not want to drop what I'm saving just anywhere. I want it to be organized. I want to drop it where I can find it.
My guess is that you mean I can drag and drop it from anywhere, but again, that's kind of a platitudinous feature these days.
The main benefit I see in the product is that it gives me a higher level of granularity as I can save sub-elements of a page directly, instead of bookmarking a whole page, or resorting to a third party, out-of-the-browser program to save and organize e.g. images independently. So it seems to allow me to save exactly what I need, more easily.
(Note that I have no idea if something similar already exists).
This is so interesting. How differently people perceive and understand words and things. I'm not talking only about your comment, i'm talking about all HN comments here.
By saying anywhere we meant any location, that means any specific Dragdis folder (that creates organizing) or (soon to come) apps folder.
Thanks for your comment!
By saying anywhere we meant any location, that means any specific Dragdis folder (that creates organizing) or (soon to come) apps folder.
Thanks for your comment!
The fewer words you use, the more that tends to happen.
After watching the video, it occurred to me that all I can do with this is share and save. And that's the end result, the goal; dragging and dropping is just a way to do it. Even your own points below are about _collecting_ information and _accessing_ it, nothing else.
And "drag & drop anything anywhere"? It seems that "anywhere" is just a special toolbar on the right side of the browser.
So... I have nothing against systems to collect and organize information; Evernote is just as bloated as OneNote, and everything else is even worse. But they most difficult thing here is "organize"; to this moment, instead of saving links in any of this services, I end up just remembering how to google them up. And this particular service doesn't seem to offer anything significantly better.
And "drag & drop anything anywhere"? It seems that "anywhere" is just a special toolbar on the right side of the browser.
So... I have nothing against systems to collect and organize information; Evernote is just as bloated as OneNote, and everything else is even worse. But they most difficult thing here is "organize"; to this moment, instead of saving links in any of this services, I end up just remembering how to google them up. And this particular service doesn't seem to offer anything significantly better.
I think you should increase the focus on being multi-device. You're competing (I think) with Evernote and Pocket for example, both have outstanding cross-platform capabilities.
This looks fantastic when I want to save something from my laptop browser, but increasingly I find myself saving from a mobile. This is fine for Pocket or Evernote, I just share it to their app, but that's not an option here. I'm also not convinced from your landing page that I can have a satisfactory reading experience on mobile, you don't show that at all. You say I can access the data - but assuming you do have a good mobile reading view, you should show that.
This looks fantastic when I want to save something from my laptop browser, but increasingly I find myself saving from a mobile. This is fine for Pocket or Evernote, I just share it to their app, but that's not an option here. I'm also not convinced from your landing page that I can have a satisfactory reading experience on mobile, you don't show that at all. You say I can access the data - but assuming you do have a good mobile reading view, you should show that.
It's a bit different then this :) We will integrate with Evernote and Pocket so everything from desktop will go to those apps were you said already have a great reading experience.
We have strong mobile strategy, but at the moment focusing to "nail" the desktop experience.
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Thanks! http://dragd.is/iY2XH
That's awesome! 2 way sync with Pocket would be amazing, this is a much better reading experience on desktop and I can use Pocket for now if necessary on mobile. You'd also get the awesome IFTTT ecosystem Pocket is in if you're not going to be able to match that for a while, saving from Feedly to Pocket is awesome and it'd be great to get saved RSS in Dragdis too!
I was just about to edit in that I really like your focus on pictures, that's where what I currently use falls down badly. I can definitely imagine I'd save more images using this.
In terms of your desktop experience, would you consider one click (not drag) page saving? In your video it looks really tedious dragging from the URL bar to a sidebar on the right when you could just have a button to save in one click and categorise later.
I was just about to edit in that I really like your focus on pictures, that's where what I currently use falls down badly. I can definitely imagine I'd save more images using this.
In terms of your desktop experience, would you consider one click (not drag) page saving? In your video it looks really tedious dragging from the URL bar to a sidebar on the right when you could just have a button to save in one click and categorise later.
What is the purpose of this landing page?
If it's to get new users to sign up, "Get started" should literally allow me to get started - i.e perform a step that is absolutely necessary towards using the product, not create an account.
So something like installing a browser plugin and/or a sandbox to try the product out - basically anything that gets me to my "aha" moment - would work better imo. I think that would then convince more people to sign up.
If it's to get new users to sign up, "Get started" should literally allow me to get started - i.e perform a step that is absolutely necessary towards using the product, not create an account.
So something like installing a browser plugin and/or a sandbox to try the product out - basically anything that gets me to my "aha" moment - would work better imo. I think that would then convince more people to sign up.
Hmm... didn't test for this. We are doing some integrations with 3rd parties. Will try this on their landing pages.
Thanks!
Thanks!
My internet is pretty slow at work, so the video although nice looking was choppy and really bad. Not sure what you can do about it, but it didn't look good at all.
I'm not sure how you want us to rate you? On a scale from 1 to 5? 1 to 10? 1 to 100?
Immediately some things come to mind. Why would I want this? Why would I need drag and drop functionality when I already have that?
I had to spend a minute or so "analyzing" your landing page to surmise that this is some type of mashup of clip to Evernote and pocketapp?
Immediately some things come to mind. Why would I want this? Why would I need drag and drop functionality when I already have that?
I had to spend a minute or so "analyzing" your landing page to surmise that this is some type of mashup of clip to Evernote and pocketapp?
Additionally the video on the landing page takes up 1/2 of the "above the fold" on my 27" screen. That seems like a lot of screen real estate to give over to a video of someone surfing the web in a nice house...
Thanks for your comments! I've dragged them to my feedback folder. (that's one of the use cases :))
First thought is that the link to "See how Dragdis works" takes you to a youtube video that shows pretty much the same thing as what plays in the page background. I don't think you need both.
I like the concept, though I didn't play around with it to see whether the implementation was what I would hope it to be.
I like the concept, though I didn't play around with it to see whether the implementation was what I would hope it to be.
Totally agree. We have A/B test on this. Here's the link:
https://dragdis.com/?utm_expid=62885031-0.MT689rjeTqy8Wox1xf...
At first we worried that people will not "get" the product without full video, but killing the video link and exposing social buttons increased conversion 5% for the past day.
Thanks for you comment!
At first we worried that people will not "get" the product without full video, but killing the video link and exposing social buttons increased conversion 5% for the past day.
Thanks for you comment!
Wow. Annoying animation. Taking up 50% of screen real estate.
Further, "Drag and drop images, links, selected text, videos or GIFs to your private folders or post directly to Facebook, Twitter & (soon to come) Tumblr, Dropbox, Pinterest etc."
So, I select some text, drop it, then what?
Further, "Drag and drop images, links, selected text, videos or GIFs to your private folders or post directly to Facebook, Twitter & (soon to come) Tumblr, Dropbox, Pinterest etc."
So, I select some text, drop it, then what?
The immediate register form when clicking "Get started" is very off putting. I was actually looking for which browsers/OSes you support, not looking to register and get settled. Being able to install it and then "log in or register to sync between computers" would be much nicer.
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A buddy of mine and I had the same idea a while back but we never attempted to implement it because it seemed like it would be difficult to do on mobile. I'm hoping these guys can execute on mobile because it would be exactly what we wanted.
We have a strategy on mobile. It some terms it's even better on mobile :)
I'm curious how you're planning on doing it on iOS. There weren't a lot of very helpful APIs to access in UIWebView at the time I was looking into doing this idea. Didn't seem impossible, just very difficult.
You may consider adding HTML5 support for your background and demo videos, as click-to-play for Flash is gaining traction.
I use it, and right now I can't click-and-play the background video, I have to whitelist the whole domain.
I use it, and right now I can't click-and-play the background video, I have to whitelist the whole domain.
I don't really get what the site is about. Sure I can "Drag & drop anything anywhere", but why would I want to spend my day dragging and dropping things around? What does the dragging and dropping enable me to do?
This might just be me, but the very heavy demography targeting in the video kind of puts me off. I'm not a Mac user. I'm not an interior designer. Yes, I do like to save quotes and links, but I'm not all those other things. Really meeting your target audience in advertising is great when you KNOW your target audience, but in this case it feels like you're locking yourself into a very specific target audience that a lot of potential users aren't going to be a part of, and why?
I'm not sure if this is constructive or if it's just personal opinion, but I hope it's of any help. If not, just disregard it, it looks good overall.
I'm not sure if this is constructive or if it's just personal opinion, but I hope it's of any help. If not, just disregard it, it looks good overall.
Yeah, we're targeting Creative Professionals as our early adopters. Sorry if it puts you off.
Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for the comment!
The marquee video lags.
I do feel like the landing page adequately communicates what the product is.
Overall, interesting product that I'd like to check out!
I do feel like the landing page adequately communicates what the product is.
Overall, interesting product that I'd like to check out!
The idea is great, but there is a problem with using the Chrome extension in incognito mode - when I start dragging anything, the sidebar opens empty..
Wait a sec or refresh. You should get a login page. Thanks!
What I assume is the background video bluescreened my windows 7 machine. Yikes! All I saw was video artifacts begin to form on the page and then POOF!
At first glance, it's pretty but distracting. I had a hard time deciding whether to focus on the video behind the words or the words themselves.
Got ya! Thanks!
The videos were super choppy for me. Maybe you could preload some percentage of the videos before they start to play?
confusing. the background video got my attention but didn't really tell me what you're selling. clicked the get started button... create an account ? no. so back. looked closely at the text to find out it's a browser extension... that was the bit of info I would've liked to see earlier...
The background video certainly grabbed my attention. And wouldn't let it go!
It would be great to have a video showing the principles behind the product but the video as it stands is too distracting. It zooms, scrolls or switches view every one to two seconds. I didn't think I'm slow, but the current video the switch from user-focus to screen-focus is too quick to get a feel for what's going on.
Maybe slow it down a bit or stick to one or two key video angles?
Just focussing on one point. Apart from that lots of other good comments here.
It would be great to have a video showing the principles behind the product but the video as it stands is too distracting. It zooms, scrolls or switches view every one to two seconds. I didn't think I'm slow, but the current video the switch from user-focus to screen-focus is too quick to get a feel for what's going on.
Maybe slow it down a bit or stick to one or two key video angles?
Just focussing on one point. Apart from that lots of other good comments here.
I agree. I wanted to try it, but then i could not.
this may sound bumb, but ... with all the designy ui and pristine graphics and all... after staring at it for 10 seconds I still have no idea what is this all about. Everything is way too spaced out and I need to dig deep. For most users these days means they simply leave your site.
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Love the video as background, explained to me very well what Dragdis was about. Great tool!
Great! Thank you! http://dragd.is/7XEr9
i like it, yes its standard but its extremely functional. and maybe there is some bias because i like the concept of dragdis but regardless the site is clear and concise
Yeah, we're having this dilemma fresh vs. effective :)
Thanks! http://dragd.is/7XEr9
Thanks! http://dragd.is/7XEr9
the landing page looks great but i'm a bit skeptical of the product itself