Show HN: Find profitable niche in App Store and Google Play Market(appsleak.com)
appsleak.com
Show HN: Find profitable niche in App Store and Google Play Market
http://appsleak.com
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I'm used to playing the "UK, United Kingdom, Great Britain, England..." guessing game in drop down lists but putting "United Kingdom" in between Gabon and Grenada is a new one. I'd almost given up looking by that point.
(Presumably the list is sorted by country code.)
(Presumably the list is sorted by country code.)
Yes. I have to change this. Thanks
Thanks for the interesting tool.
Perhaps a couple of examples (from the time of writing) of niches you've identified with it would be helpful to first-time visitors?
I know there's the slideshow on the homepage, but after putting a search phrase in there's nothing that immediately grabs me and makes me think "wow that's a big opportunity". Perhaps it's just me being mostly ignorant of the mobile market, but it's some honest feedback.
There's a typo in the App Store/Play headings ("Competiton").
Perhaps a couple of examples (from the time of writing) of niches you've identified with it would be helpful to first-time visitors?
I know there's the slideshow on the homepage, but after putting a search phrase in there's nothing that immediately grabs me and makes me think "wow that's a big opportunity". Perhaps it's just me being mostly ignorant of the mobile market, but it's some honest feedback.
There's a typo in the App Store/Play headings ("Competiton").
Yes, I have corrected this typo. Thanks
It makes sense as "Great Britain"
I'm a founder and CEO at MobileDevHQ[1], a startup focused on App Store optimization. We have been doing this work for almost a year and a half now and have built powerful tools for understanding the App Store, including keyword research and market/niche finders.
Appsleak looks interesting, congrats on launching! The app ecosystem needs more tools to help it mature and advance.
To those of you interested in understanding markets/niches and keywords in the app stores, it is important to note a couple main points:
First, there are large differences between Google/other web search volume and search volume in the App Store. At MobileDevHQ, we do lots of work to uncover those differences and provide realistic pictures of what is happening in the app stores themselves. For example, the volume on Google for "puzzles" likely has little relation to the volume in the app stores.
Also, competition as defined by number of search results is a great start to understanding the difficulty it will take for you to rank highly for a particular term, but it doesn't go far enough. At the end of the day, it is not just about number of results, but also the factors that the app stores use to rank results, and how "entrenched" those factors are in current results. You can only begin to understand this with lots of data, which is why we have been collecting this for years now and have even released a tool we call Sonar to help developers and marketers understand when an App Store changes its search algorithm.
There are tons of things I could riff on about App Store search, but those are the 2 most common thigs I see people missing, so I wanted to make sure I mentioned those in particular.
[1] http://www.mobiledevhq.com
Appsleak looks interesting, congrats on launching! The app ecosystem needs more tools to help it mature and advance.
To those of you interested in understanding markets/niches and keywords in the app stores, it is important to note a couple main points:
First, there are large differences between Google/other web search volume and search volume in the App Store. At MobileDevHQ, we do lots of work to uncover those differences and provide realistic pictures of what is happening in the app stores themselves. For example, the volume on Google for "puzzles" likely has little relation to the volume in the app stores.
Also, competition as defined by number of search results is a great start to understanding the difficulty it will take for you to rank highly for a particular term, but it doesn't go far enough. At the end of the day, it is not just about number of results, but also the factors that the app stores use to rank results, and how "entrenched" those factors are in current results. You can only begin to understand this with lots of data, which is why we have been collecting this for years now and have even released a tool we call Sonar to help developers and marketers understand when an App Store changes its search algorithm.
There are tons of things I could riff on about App Store search, but those are the 2 most common thigs I see people missing, so I wanted to make sure I mentioned those in particular.
[1] http://www.mobiledevhq.com
Your sales page says:
"We track over 400,000 searches representing almost 50,000,000 results. "
Really? Where do you get this data? Apple is certainly not making it available (for obvious reasons).
"We track over 400,000 searches representing almost 50,000,000 results. "
Really? Where do you get this data? Apple is certainly not making it available (for obvious reasons).
We do a lot of crawling various data sources. We spent over 3 years building a really great infrastructure to do this well. This is how we can present rank tracking for you and your competitors over time. The last time I checked, I think the number was actually over 500k... I should update that page!
I'm a backend developer at MobileDevHQ, and just checked our db. We're currently tracking 520,684 searches.
> Where do you get this data?
I think they are making estimates about downloads for popular apps based on the change in downloads on less-downloaded apps for a given keyword.
I think they are making estimates about downloads for popular apps based on the change in downloads on less-downloaded apps for a given keyword.
Page says ‘Closed’. Too bad, title piqued my interest.
That page is lying, it's not "Closed": http://appsleak.com/app/how_it_works/
You misspelled "competition" as "competiton".
Also, the phrases don't really seem good, and seem to be based on unfiltered web searches, instead of app store searches or at least filtered web searches.
For example with "photo" I get: - shutterfly - photobucket - photo editor -whited00r_tested.ipa - walgreens photo - photo editor
Obviously, aside from the obvious "photo editor", none of these are useful.
Also, it's down now.
The abstract idea is interesting, but the current implementation doesn't seem useful.
Also, the phrases don't really seem good, and seem to be based on unfiltered web searches, instead of app store searches or at least filtered web searches.
For example with "photo" I get: - shutterfly - photobucket - photo editor -whited00r_tested.ipa - walgreens photo - photo editor
Obviously, aside from the obvious "photo editor", none of these are useful.
Also, it's down now.
The abstract idea is interesting, but the current implementation doesn't seem useful.
I think it depends on type of phrase, but yes some phrases will not seem good because it is still based on searches from Google
Interesting. It's a bit like Market Samurai with app store search results thrown in. I would love to see it pull in sales and grossing rank figures but they're a little harder to capture.
That was my conclusion as well. I'm working on a Market Samurai competitor, currently in pre-launch at: http://KeywordSear.ch
I'm wondering how they got this data, I would love to be able to offer App store specific research. I agree, sales and gross rank would really be slick.
I'm wondering how they got this data, I would love to be able to offer App store specific research. I agree, sales and gross rank would really be slick.
Site's down.
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This is my brand new project which helps indie iOS/Android devs discover the most profitable phrase niches in Apple App Store and Google Play Market for their apps and monitor position of their apps in markets.
Please give me your feedback :)
Regards, Wiktor