Elf – A reactive store with magical powers(ngneat.github.io)

36 pointsby roosgitvor 5 Jahren18 comments

ngneat.github.io

Elf – A reactive store with magical powers

https://ngneat.github.io/elf/

5 comments

smitty1evor 5 Jahren

Not to be confused with https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executable_and_Linkable_Form...

Indeed, yet another failure to do a simple name search. Also see https://www.elf.com/en for a longstanding corporate use of that name, although I doubt there would be any confusion between the petroleum company and this project.

kronovor 5 Jahren

Use of the word "elf" in various forms goes _slightly_ further back than even this business' use [0]

Talk about failure to do a simple name search :)

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf

cf100clunkvor 5 Jahren

I note some humour there. My focus is purely in regards to a computer programming project being named identically to a longstanding, well known computer programming standard. Very sloppy of this group.

kronovor 5 Jahren

Yeah I can see where you're coming from what that.

I'm glad you took it in jest as was my intention.

bpersonvor 5 Jahren

Imagine another possibility. The person that named their project Elf looked at the other projects named Elf and thought, "my project is more deserving of the name". Don't attribute to incompetence that which can be explained with vanity

nerdponxvor 5 Jahren

Or they just thought the existing uses of the name were for sufficiently different things.

bpersonvor 5 Jahren

OP was trying to be unkind so I wanted to keep the theme going. But, yes, your explanation is more likely

ramesh31vor 5 Jahren

Seems like Redux with extra steps. After switching to MobX State Tree, I can't go back to anything that doesn't provide runtime typechecking.

AgentMEvor 5 Jahren

I've been really itching for something that's like Redux, but works better with bundle splitting, has first-class support for entities and caching requests, and still has proper Typescript support. I'm going to be looking into this.

nsonhavor 5 Jahren

people have been thinking about that since we first used redux (which is what? 7 years) but it hasn't happened yet. Maybe, just maybe redux is a shit library, on top of which building something like that would be awkward, just look at RTK.

acemarkevor 5 Jahren

Hi, I'm a Redux maintainer, and I created RTK. Can you clarify what you mean by "awkward"?

FWIW, we have a _lot_ of very happy RTK users out there:

https://www.reddit.com/r/reactjs/comments/px6kxy/redux_toolk...

nsonhavor 5 Jahren

hey this is just a passer by rant and I did not intend to start a conversation about a topic I consider rather boring and visited countless times in the front-end community. At this point all arguments have been presented by someone at some point. I don't have anything new to say, and don't use redux anymore.

I don't know what the fact that you have "_a lot_" of happy users has anything to do here, may be that should make me happy? I should be.

plutonormvor 5 Jahren

how unpleasant.

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ameliusvor 5 Jahren

The design here made me think of:

http://sigwait.tk/~alex/doc/bunz%2Cmercedes__school-will-nev...

AgentMEvor 5 Jahren

This is the most "get off my lawn" thing I've read around here in a while. I'm baffled that the author thinks there's any mystery that many users and many designers like injecting some playfulness into their work. It's so over the top to describe the choice of playful logos as "manipulating [users], engendering stupidity as the desirable state they should be in". Realizing I don't want to be as much of a stick in the mud as the author is making me actively wonder how I can make my own work more playful.

Additionally I think the article makes a bit of a mistake to group up old distracting playfulness attempts (Microsoft Clippy and related assistants; I'd put other old fashions like animated cursor trails in this category too), playful logos (Google, Twitter, etc, like the Elf logo here), and flat design. Microsoft Clippy was egregious for surprising the user, animating about, and talking when the user is trying to focus. I think it's overreaching to look at Clippy, decide the playfulness was the bad part, and then associate its badness with logos and flat design. I think the article overlooks the intended benefits of flat design in how it simplifies the UI by removing unnecessary skeuomorphisms and details. (There are valid criticisms that flat design sometimes removes too many details and makes UIs harder to understand, but the article only talks about flat design as an arbitrary fashion of playfulness.)

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ameliusvor 5 Jahren

Sorry but I view this kind of playfulness as an unnecessary distraction and regard it as unprofessional. Did you ever see a medical or engineering text (outside of software engineering) or mathematical text aimed at professionals with such graphics?

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duiker101vor 5 Jahren

Unfortunately, opening the docs immediately redirects me to a non-working Stackblitz page, so I can't really see it :(