Study: The Pill Causes Women to Like Different Men(timesonline.co.uk)
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Study: The Pill Causes Women to Like Different Men
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article4516566.ece
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We really need a male oral contraceptive. The pill would be far less likely to ruin relationships. Most men's desires are so, well, "broad spectrum" it's hard to imagine a change in our tastes that would eliminate our desire for our present partner.
Never happen.
1) No woman would believe you if you said you were on it (remember we are talking about initial stages of attraction here) 2) Society has ingrained prejudices against men dosing themselves with synthetic hormones in support of lifestyle choices
1) No woman would believe you if you said you were on it (remember we are talking about initial stages of attraction here) 2) Society has ingrained prejudices against men dosing themselves with synthetic hormones in support of lifestyle choices
You know, there are men who want it for their own reasons and wouldn't give a shit if a woman believed you or not. It's so they don't have to worry if the women screws up and the girl gets pregnant by mistake, hooking them up for child support payments for 20 years. Their girl might not agree with chemical contraception, making it better if they got it themselves.
Also there is research into non-hormonal contraception for men.
Also there is research into non-hormonal contraception for men.
My girlfriend would be delighted if there were a male contraceptive pill. She is barely over 100 pounds and is very sensitive to medication across the board. (Just one cup of coffee in the afternoon is enough to give her insomnia.)
We went through 4 different contraceptive pills, each switch taking over a month. They had obnoxious side effects: made her feel irritable, cut her sex drive down to nothing, made her feel not attracted to me, and made her feel like she "wasn't herself." It was horrible and it did test our relationship. The pill is not really an option for her, and I wish I had an option other than a vasecctomy.
(We currently use condom & foam, which ruins a lot of the spontaneity, and which isn't quite effective enough for her tastes.)
We went through 4 different contraceptive pills, each switch taking over a month. They had obnoxious side effects: made her feel irritable, cut her sex drive down to nothing, made her feel not attracted to me, and made her feel like she "wasn't herself." It was horrible and it did test our relationship. The pill is not really an option for her, and I wish I had an option other than a vasecctomy.
(We currently use condom & foam, which ruins a lot of the spontaneity, and which isn't quite effective enough for her tastes.)
> made her feel irritable, cut her sex drive down to nothing, made her feel not attracted to me
I went through this for a year, and apparently a lot of our married friends have too. I think that this particular side-effect of the pill is more common than drug companies would like to admit. Worse, I think it's been attributed to female nature instead of recognized as a side effect of this far-too-common drug.
I went through this for a year, and apparently a lot of our married friends have too. I think that this particular side-effect of the pill is more common than drug companies would like to admit. Worse, I think it's been attributed to female nature instead of recognized as a side effect of this far-too-common drug.
I think they not only ignore this, I think they knowingly make pills with worse emotional/affective side effects simply because they can be made cheaper. "Monophasic" birth control pills? That just means all the pills are the same except for the placebos.
made her feel irritable is an understatement for many women.
......you didn't leave an email =)
there's also other non-oral options such as the Evra patch. Because it's through the skin the hormonal dosage is a bit lower than the pill. Other options include the Nueva ring and a three-month per shot injection thing, altho that improves her chances of getting osteoporosis.
there's also other non-oral options such as the Evra patch. Because it's through the skin the hormonal dosage is a bit lower than the pill. Other options include the Nueva ring and a three-month per shot injection thing, altho that improves her chances of getting osteoporosis.
I am very suspicious of any hormonal birth control for my girlfriend. Her 2X or more enhanced sensitivity to everything is really uncanny in how consistent it is. At first I thought she was making things up or overreacting. She's not. I can't see any hormonal birth control avoiding the side effects unless it was specifically designed for her. I hear that this is coming down the pike, however. If you could do this in a cost effective way, you'd make billions.
http://www.orthoevra.com/orthoevra/birth_ctl_know_option.htm...
Yeah unfortunately there's not a lot of other options other than the chemical approach. But I vaguely remember reading from somewhere that transdermal methods (like the patch) and injection methods has more direct access to the bloodstream without having to go through the digestive tract, and hence can be administered in lower dosage than oral methods. IANADoctor, obviously.
Yeah unfortunately there's not a lot of other options other than the chemical approach. But I vaguely remember reading from somewhere that transdermal methods (like the patch) and injection methods has more direct access to the bloodstream without having to go through the digestive tract, and hence can be administered in lower dosage than oral methods. IANADoctor, obviously.
The thing is that estrogen/testosterone regulate a lot of different subsystems. Avoiding "side effects" may not be even possible using the technique of manipulating sex hormones. There are two potentially huge markets here, birth control and bodybuilding. The bodybuilders would, if they could, abandon conventional steroids altogether and go for HGH because they've realized that the side effects are just inevitable. A side-effect free Pill is going to need some science which isn't available yet.
I fully agree. Why does our society treat contraception as the woman's responsibility? It seems like low-side-effect male oral contraception is a relatively easy problem, but I don't even think there are any male contraceptives in the pipeline, sadly.
My last girlfriend reacted badly to every BC pill she took. I was 24 and 180 pounds, while she was 20 and 115 pounds. Dosing drugs in an adolescent is a pharmacologically hard problem, especially when the drugs are hormonal, and the fact that I was much larger also made me a better candidate for drug experimentation. If there had been a male Pill, I would have readily taken it.
My last girlfriend reacted badly to every BC pill she took. I was 24 and 180 pounds, while she was 20 and 115 pounds. Dosing drugs in an adolescent is a pharmacologically hard problem, especially when the drugs are hormonal, and the fact that I was much larger also made me a better candidate for drug experimentation. If there had been a male Pill, I would have readily taken it.
I actually remember reading about research to make a male contraceptive. If I remember correctly it's harder because there are way more sperm than ova.
Who made the study? Where and when? On how many women? Why so many people believe anything the press says without questioning it?
Science and health reporting in particular is notoriously bad.
Now, should I forward this article to my gf or not?
An interesting article describing attraction and smell in humans:
http://psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=pto-19960...
It's interesting that the pill, which intentionally tampers with a woman's reproductive system, also tampers with what a woman finds attractive in a potential mate, sans the intention of mating for reproduction.
http://psychologytoday.com/articles/index.php?term=pto-19960...
It's interesting that the pill, which intentionally tampers with a woman's reproductive system, also tampers with what a woman finds attractive in a potential mate, sans the intention of mating for reproduction.
So, all I have to do to get that girl that isn't interested in me to change her mind is convince her to take the Pill?
Beer causes me to like different women.
it's too bad sterilization is so stigmatized.
"Several previous studies have suggested that women tend to prefer the smell of men who are different from them in a cluster of genes ... which governs the immune system"
"when the women started taking the Pill their preferences shifted towards the scent of men with more similar genes to their own."
"The research also found differences between women in relationships, who tended to prefer odours of men with different MHC genes, and single women, who tended to prefer the smell of MHC-similar men. This could potentially indicate that if women are tempted to have an affair, they are more likely to choose a man with very different genes, to maximise the diversity of any offspring that they might have."
"Women on the Pill tend to prefer macho types with strong jaw lines and prominent cheekbones. However, women who are not taking that form of contraception seem to be more likely to go for more sensitive types of men without traditionally masculine features."
If these findings are all true, how many things that have happened over the last 30-40 years would it explain? Sicklier children, cultural attitudes towards men, rising divorce rates, etc. Wow.