Japanese bookstore simulator translated into English after 24 years(rhizome.org)
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Japanese bookstore simulator translated into English after 24 years
https://rhizome.org/editorial/2021/may/18/true-fans-translate-fansubbing-bookstory/
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> There are some white dudes, but not ALL white dudes
Can you clarify what this statement means?
Can you clarify what this statement means?
Some people think that race is the most important thing about a person so they make sure to mention race in every situation.
How can you tell that OP is a person that thinks race is the most important thing about a person?
It's an analogue to the "how can you tell someone is a vegan" trope.
It's the same for crossfit and vapers. For reference I vape, but don't go telling... wait... damn.
So the implication is that one who talks about race “too much” is a racist?
It's not just white guys
When white dudes do good things, like supporting emergency shelters when their working-class lives are not otherwise consuming them, we get to take them for granted. Talk down about them. It's okay. In fact, it's all the rage.
Don't worry, not ALL of the people doing the things we want done are white dudes. Your experience with our club will not be ruined by the presence of this lower caste. Pay little mind to them. In fact, pay them little, in general.
Join us. You'll feel good about yourself.
Don't worry, not ALL of the people doing the things we want done are white dudes. Your experience with our club will not be ruined by the presence of this lower caste. Pay little mind to them. In fact, pay them little, in general.
Join us. You'll feel good about yourself.
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It’s an American thing. I think it’s best to just let it slide…
No, this needs to be called out as the obvious racism it is as this mentality is slowly infiltrating the European tech sector.
Maybe white- and blue-collar?
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Is there a Visual Basic that compiles for all platforms? Man that would be a killer app. As a teen, I hadn't even formally learned BASIC, but somehow I was able to cobble together programs with VB, and it gave me confidence that I could learn more.
There really is a huge gap left behind by the decline of VB. I've been designing a few games with Godot recently and I've really come to enjoy how intuitive it is for building interfaces and getting prototypes up and running. However the proprietary scripting language (GDScript) itself is rather limited. Having a solid WYSIWYG form builder backed by e.g. Python that generates binaries for a number of target platforms would be incredible.
I may be in the minority but I really enjoy proper desktop software over SaaS web equivalents.
I may be in the minority but I really enjoy proper desktop software over SaaS web equivalents.
Lazarus might serve the purpose, its based on Pascal, which in most respects a better system than VB.
The closest you get to having a RAD IDE for WinForms is probably Lazarus, but it's based on Pascal. For BASIC, there's a project called WinFBE which seems to be in active development.
Was this done with the permission of Kairosoft? Kairosoft may not approve of an unlicensed translation of a game that they still distribute on their web site, for various reasons including that a poor quality translation may tarnish their business reputation.
(edit: Nothing about permission in article.)
(edit: Nothing about permission in article.)
I have serious doubts that someone downloading this near 30 year old game's clearly fan translated version is going to be shocked and appalled by the poor quality translation and then reflect this onto Kairosoft's "business reputation."
How about weighing a couple potential morons thinking less of a company against the archival value and reach of a project like this? In my view it isn't even close. The translation is worth it.
Not everything needs to be reduced to "business reputation" and "$". Especially when we're talking about 24 year old japanese software. If anything a translation would improve outcomes for the company in myriad ways. One may be laying groundwork for a modern product that they could actually sell.
How about weighing a couple potential morons thinking less of a company against the archival value and reach of a project like this? In my view it isn't even close. The translation is worth it.
Not everything needs to be reduced to "business reputation" and "$". Especially when we're talking about 24 year old japanese software. If anything a translation would improve outcomes for the company in myriad ways. One may be laying groundwork for a modern product that they could actually sell.
The company here can decide for itself whether it is in its best interest to allow an unlicensed fan translation of one of its programs. If it is, then the company does nothing. If not, then the company will tell them to stop what they're doing.
According to this fan wiki I found (https://kairosoft.fandom.com/wiki/Kairosoft_Wiki), Kairosoft hasn’t touched PCs since 2001, and has been doing mobile stuff. They have done more than a few games that seem to be in the same general genre as this one, but haven’t done a new version of Book Store Story.
Maybe this will result in them seeing this outpouring of love for a 24 year old game and deciding to do a remake to their modern standards!
Or maybe a Cease & Desist letter from a lawyer. We shall see.
Maybe this will result in them seeing this outpouring of love for a 24 year old game and deciding to do a remake to their modern standards!
Or maybe a Cease & Desist letter from a lawyer. We shall see.
I don't know why everyone's piling on GP here. This isn't abandonware, the game is still being distributed by a company that still operates. And TFA author isn't distributing a mod or a patch, they're distributing the full actual game, which the owner is also still distributing.
I mean even then it may still be fine. But speculating about what the company might possibly think is beside the point - they're right there active on twitter! It's perfectly reasonable to wonder why TFA author didn't bother to reach out.
I mean even then it may still be fine. But speculating about what the company might possibly think is beside the point - they're right there active on twitter! It's perfectly reasonable to wonder why TFA author didn't bother to reach out.
If the general very strict adherence to copyright in Japan is anything to go by, contacting them would probably mean getting a 'no, absolutely not' back initially, and even if they find someone there who is receptive to the idea the chances of getting full, legally sound permission seem remote.
Not contacting them means keeping the clearance status at 'legally copyright infringement' rather than 'explicitly forbidden by the owners'. The two are the same if you just want to answer the 'Is this legal?' question, but for a noncommercial community translation effort like this it changes the 'Is this morally sound?' one.
Not contacting them means keeping the clearance status at 'legally copyright infringement' rather than 'explicitly forbidden by the owners'. The two are the same if you just want to answer the 'Is this legal?' question, but for a noncommercial community translation effort like this it changes the 'Is this morally sound?' one.
To my mind wilful ignorance is not a defence. If you know they'd say no if you asked so you don't ask them, that means you know it's against their wishes.
"To my mind" isn't really a legally defensible position.
It's unlikely Kairosoft, or any company, will sue in the US without first notifying. Courts much prefer you solve things without taking up their time, and so most company lawyers know to first give notice.
Given that, it makes perfect sense NOT to ask for permission. If Kairosoft is unaware of it, or okay with it, for the time being at least, they can just ignore it. If that stance later changes, they will almost assuredly notify (especially given the international nature of it, since an international court case, against fans, for something they're not selling, is going to be a lot of trouble and expense and loss of good will, for no real gain) in which case the translation can be taken down.
So legally, this is the sounder strategy. But you may be talking about the ethics of it. We'd have to define what we mean by ethics before really diving into that, but consider - if they were to ask permission, even if everyone involved in creating the game, even if the CEO of the company, were all on board letting them translate it...the lawyers likely wouldn't be. Actually, the lawyers might WANT to say yes, too, but feel it their legal duty to say no - "If we give them the okay others might etc etc and it would weaken future cases in court and etc etc". And based on that the company would say no, even though -everyone involved- there wants to say yes. Not asking, then, gives the company plausible defense later should they need to assert their copyrights, without actually telling the translators 'no' now.
In short, not asking, regardless of how the company feels about it, risks only that the translators will later have to scrap their work. It does not risk the company anything (and in fact gives them the option to allow their work to reach a broader audience AND to assert their copyright any time they choose). As long as the translators are okay with that risk, it presents a win-win.
Now, what makes sense to do -in Japan-, I couldn't say.
It's unlikely Kairosoft, or any company, will sue in the US without first notifying. Courts much prefer you solve things without taking up their time, and so most company lawyers know to first give notice.
Given that, it makes perfect sense NOT to ask for permission. If Kairosoft is unaware of it, or okay with it, for the time being at least, they can just ignore it. If that stance later changes, they will almost assuredly notify (especially given the international nature of it, since an international court case, against fans, for something they're not selling, is going to be a lot of trouble and expense and loss of good will, for no real gain) in which case the translation can be taken down.
So legally, this is the sounder strategy. But you may be talking about the ethics of it. We'd have to define what we mean by ethics before really diving into that, but consider - if they were to ask permission, even if everyone involved in creating the game, even if the CEO of the company, were all on board letting them translate it...the lawyers likely wouldn't be. Actually, the lawyers might WANT to say yes, too, but feel it their legal duty to say no - "If we give them the okay others might etc etc and it would weaken future cases in court and etc etc". And based on that the company would say no, even though -everyone involved- there wants to say yes. Not asking, then, gives the company plausible defense later should they need to assert their copyrights, without actually telling the translators 'no' now.
In short, not asking, regardless of how the company feels about it, risks only that the translators will later have to scrap their work. It does not risk the company anything (and in fact gives them the option to allow their work to reach a broader audience AND to assert their copyright any time they choose). As long as the translators are okay with that risk, it presents a win-win.
Now, what makes sense to do -in Japan-, I couldn't say.
> But you may be talking about the ethics of it. We'd have to define what we mean by ethics before really diving into that, but consider - if they were to ask permission, even if everyone involved in creating the game, even if the CEO of the company, were all on board letting them translate it...the lawyers likely wouldn't be. Actually, the lawyers might WANT to say yes, too, but feel it their legal duty to say no - "If we give them the okay others might etc etc and it would weaken future cases in court and etc etc". And based on that the company would say no, even though -everyone involved- there wants to say yes.
I'm talking about the ethics. I think when you're doing something with someone else's creative work, you have to give someone an opportunity to say no. And while it's possible they may want to say yes but not be in a position to do so (for whatever reason), that's ultimately their problem; not asking them because you think they would say no but secretly mean yes is... icky reasoning to say the least.
I'm talking about the ethics. I think when you're doing something with someone else's creative work, you have to give someone an opportunity to say no. And while it's possible they may want to say yes but not be in a position to do so (for whatever reason), that's ultimately their problem; not asking them because you think they would say no but secretly mean yes is... icky reasoning to say the least.
So this is why I said we have to define what we mean by ethics. You said "when you're doing something with someone else's creative work, you have to give someone an opportunity to say no". Why, other than that's how you feel?
I'm arguing from a utilitarian aspect - ethics as a means to maximize overall utility would dictate not to ask. But I'm curious what perspective you're speaking from, other than, as mentioned, gut feel (which will leave us at a bit of a conversational impasse I'm afraid).
I'm arguing from a utilitarian aspect - ethics as a means to maximize overall utility would dictate not to ask. But I'm curious what perspective you're speaking from, other than, as mentioned, gut feel (which will leave us at a bit of a conversational impasse I'm afraid).
I could make a rule-utilitarian argument for why authorial control is a good principle, but honestly my position is more deontological. Reason is the slave of the passions, all ethics discussion must bottom out in human instincts, so my only real argument is that most people seem to think this is a good rule: it's widely accepted that the author of a creative work should have a lot of control over how that work is reused. Most countries have copyright laws that let a creator control the production of derivative works; many go beyond that and have non-transferrable "moral rights" that let the author control derivative works more strictly than intact copies of their original work. Even the FSF, largely anti-copyright, gives the author options to strictly control how their work is presented in the GFDL (e.g. invariant sections).
Japanese media publishers are notorious for being unforgiving for unauthorized copies. The only reason this has little impact in the West is that most media produced for the Japanese market in whatever form do not even make it to Western markets and are a true niche interest here.
I strongly doubt a fan translation of a game from 1997 is going to reflect on or tarnish -anything-. Fan translations are very common, and without them games would be forever unavailable to people who don't speak that language.
Kairosoft is a company of about 20 people with capitalization of 100 million yen (not sure what that means exactly). [0]. They make games for current game consoles including Nintendo Switch and Sony Playstation 4, and games for iOS and Android. [1]. That's not the kind of company that doesn't care about its reputation or protecting its brand image and trademarks.
Kairosoft also produces English translations of many of its games. [2]. According to this photo from the article, the translation appears to be incomplete and leaves much of the text appearing as strings of question marks. [3] I don't believe that a company that produces dozens of games, including for current systems and many translated into English, would approve of an incomplete fan translation of one of its games.
[0] https://kairosoft.net/company/
[1] https://kairosoft.net/game/
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kairosoft
[3] https://rhizome.org/static-media/uploads/bookstory5.png
Kairosoft also produces English translations of many of its games. [2]. According to this photo from the article, the translation appears to be incomplete and leaves much of the text appearing as strings of question marks. [3] I don't believe that a company that produces dozens of games, including for current systems and many translated into English, would approve of an incomplete fan translation of one of its games.
[0] https://kairosoft.net/company/
[1] https://kairosoft.net/game/
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kairosoft
[3] https://rhizome.org/static-media/uploads/bookstory5.png
I don't see how this is harming anyone even if it's a bad translation.
And if doing things without an author's permission upsets you don't ever take a look at fanfiction.net.
And if doing things without an author's permission upsets you don't ever take a look at fanfiction.net.
> And if doing things without an author's permission upsets you don't ever take a look at fanfiction.net.
It doesn't upset me. It's just that no one making fan fictions or fan translations should be surprised when they receive a cease and desist letter, DMCA takedown notice, or copyright infringement complaint.
edit: Actually, it does bother me that some of us think that it's perfectly okay to distribute fan translations of other people's work. It seems like when the work is a game or is in a language that few of us understand, like Japanese, respect for the rights of the creators goes out the window. This causes real problems for the creators, particularly individuals and small companies, that might want to enforce their rights, but don't have the budget or legal resources to do so. So, many of them are victims of international "fans" who do whatever they want. Here, there's no indication that the fans even tried to contact the company about doing a legitimate licensed translation; they just did whatever they wanted to without any regard for the rights of the creators.
It doesn't upset me. It's just that no one making fan fictions or fan translations should be surprised when they receive a cease and desist letter, DMCA takedown notice, or copyright infringement complaint.
edit: Actually, it does bother me that some of us think that it's perfectly okay to distribute fan translations of other people's work. It seems like when the work is a game or is in a language that few of us understand, like Japanese, respect for the rights of the creators goes out the window. This causes real problems for the creators, particularly individuals and small companies, that might want to enforce their rights, but don't have the budget or legal resources to do so. So, many of them are victims of international "fans" who do whatever they want. Here, there's no indication that the fans even tried to contact the company about doing a legitimate licensed translation; they just did whatever they wanted to without any regard for the rights of the creators.
I'm of the opinion that a fan translation is acceptable, so long as it requires the end user to have purchased the original product.
In some visual novels, patches are distributed via delta patches that are designed to be used on the binaries provided by the original installation. Or in some other cases, the group only provides certain modified archives which are installed by overwriting the original installation.
In both cases, the end user who doesn't understand Japanese (or in some other VNs, Chinese) are able to play while the publisher/developer still gets compensated for their work.
In some visual novels, patches are distributed via delta patches that are designed to be used on the binaries provided by the original installation. Or in some other cases, the group only provides certain modified archives which are installed by overwriting the original installation.
In both cases, the end user who doesn't understand Japanese (or in some other VNs, Chinese) are able to play while the publisher/developer still gets compensated for their work.
Honestly, if you're not translating for market X, then I can't see a moral reason to object to making a complete fan hacked release in that market. If the company is interested enough to do their own translation, that's a different issue.
But for things which you'll not be able to enjoy in a legal way, even if you want to spend the money? I'm all for piracy of software / books / music / art in that situation.
But for things which you'll not be able to enjoy in a legal way, even if you want to spend the money? I'm all for piracy of software / books / music / art in that situation.
Not like I care either way, I don't think it's comparable to fanfictions.
Fanfictions are legal, this one, not so much. At the very least, the redistribution the game part surely isn't.
Fanfictions are legal, this one, not so much. At the very least, the redistribution the game part surely isn't.
Fan fiction does infringe copyright most of the time—at least under EU copyright, which does not have fair use. Under US copyright, defending fan fiction as fair use isn’t quite the slam dunk either.
If publishers aren’t quick to litigate fan fiction away, I’d say it’s because they decided that it’s actually beneficial to them. It keeps the community invested in the fictional universe, and the canonical works only gain in respect—and these are the only ones making money. So it’s a social contract between fan fiction authors and publishers. That is why fan fiction communities try to moderate submissions to keep their end of the bargain—i.e. no selling of fan fiction, and no fan fiction that could be seen as detrimental to the image of the work (for example erotica is not allowed in many places).
Related to this, the novel 50 shades of grey had a pretty interesting genesis where it started out as a twilight fan fiction, which was booted of fan fiction sites because of its explicit content. The author then created her own website. Because she gained a massive following, she realised that she could commercialise the novel. That’s when she changed all the names in the novel to no longer refer to Twilight characters. Because she had already transposed the characters to another universe, at that point there wasn’t much of Twilight left and she was free to market and sell it.
If publishers aren’t quick to litigate fan fiction away, I’d say it’s because they decided that it’s actually beneficial to them. It keeps the community invested in the fictional universe, and the canonical works only gain in respect—and these are the only ones making money. So it’s a social contract between fan fiction authors and publishers. That is why fan fiction communities try to moderate submissions to keep their end of the bargain—i.e. no selling of fan fiction, and no fan fiction that could be seen as detrimental to the image of the work (for example erotica is not allowed in many places).
Related to this, the novel 50 shades of grey had a pretty interesting genesis where it started out as a twilight fan fiction, which was booted of fan fiction sites because of its explicit content. The author then created her own website. Because she gained a massive following, she realised that she could commercialise the novel. That’s when she changed all the names in the novel to no longer refer to Twilight characters. Because she had already transposed the characters to another universe, at that point there wasn’t much of Twilight left and she was free to market and sell it.
Japanese understanding for copyright is like enforceable shrinkwrap software licensing entitled to authors, literally “authorship rights”.
American version is like rights holder’s right to protect mostly financial interest, almost literally “copy-rights”.
When ones from different sides meet a misunderstanding like this happens; one side says “it’s not going to hurt your sales”, the other side says “how dare you mess with someone else’s binary” and the discussions go nowhere.
As for resolution, an emerging choice is to make the author monetize the pirated translation and let them take down the free version. Don’t work always as sometimes the rights holder consider that a negligible gain or minor loss with high reputation risks to day jobs.
So, “it’s not going to hurt sales” won’t work. “Do you have any idea to make it official” is probably better.
American version is like rights holder’s right to protect mostly financial interest, almost literally “copy-rights”.
When ones from different sides meet a misunderstanding like this happens; one side says “it’s not going to hurt your sales”, the other side says “how dare you mess with someone else’s binary” and the discussions go nowhere.
As for resolution, an emerging choice is to make the author monetize the pirated translation and let them take down the free version. Don’t work always as sometimes the rights holder consider that a negligible gain or minor loss with high reputation risks to day jobs.
So, “it’s not going to hurt sales” won’t work. “Do you have any idea to make it official” is probably better.
Actually the issue is Japanese “copyright” is very hard issue. I knew it killed bubblegum crisis in my days.
This reminds me of the fan translation projects for games like Ace Attorney from Japanese -> Korean. They also found a way to extract the game strings and put them into a google doc. It was super cool.
So I went through all of the hassle of modding my 3ds to change its language to Korean (Nintendo only allows specific languages per 3ds region), and patching a romfile of Ace Attorney. Then Nintendo released Ace Attorney 1-3 on the switch and pc, so that was great timing. It's still annoying on the switch as the game supports Korean, but only if you set your system language to Korean; hardly ideal if anyone else uses it. At least with Steam it can be configured per-game.
So I went through all of the hassle of modding my 3ds to change its language to Korean (Nintendo only allows specific languages per 3ds region), and patching a romfile of Ace Attorney. Then Nintendo released Ace Attorney 1-3 on the switch and pc, so that was great timing. It's still annoying on the switch as the game supports Korean, but only if you set your system language to Korean; hardly ideal if anyone else uses it. At least with Steam it can be configured per-game.
There were similar efforts in the Chinese fan-translators community, and Ace Attorney is distinguished by the huge amount of texts, not to mention the peculiar culture references that are borderline untranslatable. The time for grassroot game translations may have peaked with the introduction of official remasters in Chinese and the increasing barriers in dumping and reverse-engineering ROMs, but the contributors deserve to be celebrated for their creativeness and hardwork. They are practicing online collaborations before the era of online collaboration.
Yes, totally this. I really wish there was some way I could contribute to the project (they don’t accept donations). Such a nice community of people too.
me too, they had me at "japanese bookstore simulator"
I tried to do something similar with Traffic Confusion https://web.archive.org/web/20021203070116/http://hd.st90.ar... I started using a resource editor on the Windows exe to extract resources and substituting in translated ones. Was all by hand (clicky-clicky-clicky) and really needed to be scripted.
UI designed purely in WinForms!
I love it. The enterprise-y look is perfect for a business sim.
How hard would it be to have a VB VM interpreter in JS I wonder?
There's this one for qbasic: http://stevehanov.ca/blog/?id=92
There are some questions we shouldn't ask...
reminds me of the dodgily-translated Pokemon Gameboy roms from circa turn of the millennium
This game (actually this write-up) makes me reconsider how I've long felt that Visual Basic was a pox on the computer industry.
VB is definitely easier to learn and run. Cf with powerbuilder, oracle form 4 (so many bugs I recalled), forget what is the third one then. The thick client vs CICS ...
I recently re-installed Kairosoft's "Game Dev Story" on my Android phone because I needed a good distraction from the world.
I had to uninstall it years ago because it was shocking how easily I became hooked!
I had no idea they were making games all the way back in 1997, but it makes perfect sense in hindsight: Game Dev Story is a masterful execution of this type of game and might even be a Magnum Opus of sorts for Kairosoft. Even if this type of game is not your cup of tea, it's interesting to check out if you're familiar with the history of video games.
If it wasn't getting late on a Sunday night, I would be booting into Windows to give Bookstore Story a try, but I know if I do I might be up until 3 am...
I had to uninstall it years ago because it was shocking how easily I became hooked!
I had no idea they were making games all the way back in 1997, but it makes perfect sense in hindsight: Game Dev Story is a masterful execution of this type of game and might even be a Magnum Opus of sorts for Kairosoft. Even if this type of game is not your cup of tea, it's interesting to check out if you're familiar with the history of video games.
If it wasn't getting late on a Sunday night, I would be booting into Windows to give Bookstore Story a try, but I know if I do I might be up until 3 am...
Thanks for pointing out that both games are from the same company. "Game Dev Story" is highly addictive and I also had to uninstall it some years ago because of this...
Whoa, initially missed that this one is also from Kairosoft. They now have a huge library of sim titles like these, available not just on iOS but PlayStation and I’m sure many other platforms as well.
Their games are so inspiring. The formula they employ is so much simpler than the typical "tycoon" or "sim" game (in a good way) and practically begs to be applied to all kinds of different scenarios like farming, restaurant management, film production, animal breeding, all manner of manufacturing... If I ever get back into game development I will probably wind up trying to apply their formula to something novel.
If you're looking for something old to restore, here's something I started - restoring one of the very earliest pieces of science fiction. This is "The Sky Pirate", by Garrett P. Serviss, better known for "Edison's Conquest of Mars". That one was intended as an unauthorized sequel to H.G. Wells's 1987 "War of the Worlds".
"The Sky Pirate" was serialized in newspapers, and never published as a book. I brought back the first 3 chapters from Library of Congress scans of microfilms of newspapers from 2011. The Library of Congress ran those through an OCR program. The result needs much cleanup.
Here's the first chapter, cleaned up.[1] Here's the prologue:
"The sea pirate has long been a fascinating figure of romance, but the march of progress has driven him into well deserved retirement, and he has now been replaced, in fiction at least, by the sky pirate, who is even more mysterious, more daring and more romantic than his predecessor. Read and there will unfold before you the extraordinary story of Captain Alfonso Payton and his airship, the Chameleon; of William Grayman, the richest man in the world; of his beautiful daughter, for whose ransom $10,000,000 was demanded; of Lieutenant Allen of the revenue service, of wonders by wireless and of fierce battles above the clouds."
It gets worse. The writing is terrible. The plot is lame. The characters are one-dimensional. I got through seven chapters before quitting in disgust. There's a reason that nobody, in a century, ever republished this.
So I put it on Github.[2] After 110 years, it's clearly public domain. If someone wants to finish the job, fork the project on Github and go for it. Thanks.
[1] https://github.com/John-Nagle/Sky-Pirate/blob/master/src/cha...
[2] https://github.com/John-Nagle/Sky-Pirate
"The Sky Pirate" was serialized in newspapers, and never published as a book. I brought back the first 3 chapters from Library of Congress scans of microfilms of newspapers from 2011. The Library of Congress ran those through an OCR program. The result needs much cleanup.
Here's the first chapter, cleaned up.[1] Here's the prologue:
"The sea pirate has long been a fascinating figure of romance, but the march of progress has driven him into well deserved retirement, and he has now been replaced, in fiction at least, by the sky pirate, who is even more mysterious, more daring and more romantic than his predecessor. Read and there will unfold before you the extraordinary story of Captain Alfonso Payton and his airship, the Chameleon; of William Grayman, the richest man in the world; of his beautiful daughter, for whose ransom $10,000,000 was demanded; of Lieutenant Allen of the revenue service, of wonders by wireless and of fierce battles above the clouds."
It gets worse. The writing is terrible. The plot is lame. The characters are one-dimensional. I got through seven chapters before quitting in disgust. There's a reason that nobody, in a century, ever republished this.
So I put it on Github.[2] After 110 years, it's clearly public domain. If someone wants to finish the job, fork the project on Github and go for it. Thanks.
[1] https://github.com/John-Nagle/Sky-Pirate/blob/master/src/cha...
[2] https://github.com/John-Nagle/Sky-Pirate
Thank you for sharing this, it was a fun comment to read. The effort itself is commendable and I understand why you would leave the remaining work for others.
For some reason the prose reminds me of Allan Quatermain, which was a book I just couldn't get through.
For some reason the prose reminds me of Allan Quatermain, which was a book I just couldn't get through.
forked but i saw a barn and noble version : https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-sky-pirate-garrett-p-se...
I'am curious to know if the barn and noble is a legit version.
I'am curious to know if the barn and noble is a legit version.
It looks like someone else transcribed it and brought it out as a cheapie self-published book on B&N's platform.
There's also a version on Lulu.[1]
Both of those went on sale within the past 5 years, and I put the first seven chapters on Github 5 years ago. Hm.
[1] https://www.lulu.com/shop/garrett-p-serviss/the-sky-pirate/e...
There's also a version on Lulu.[1]
Both of those went on sale within the past 5 years, and I put the first seven chapters on Github 5 years ago. Hm.
[1] https://www.lulu.com/shop/garrett-p-serviss/the-sky-pirate/e...
dam :/ sorry cheers ...
Correction. "1897 War of the Worlds".
There is something magical about these massively multiplayer Google sheets where a large amount of strangers collaborates on the same goal without outside communication.
I've experienced it when Eliezer Yudkowsky — after several books of content — put the hero of his story in a nearly impossible situation to get out of. He challenged his readers to find a solution within 60 hours otherwise they get the bad ending.
Observing the organic collection, deduplication and rating of ideas in the sheet was an interesting experience.
[0] HPMOR (the story) — http://www.hpmor.com/
[1] Final Exam (the chapter with the assignment) - http://www.hpmor.com/chapter/113
[2] The Spreadsheet – https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17-zbmElKXWv9nqcsDzop...
I've experienced it when Eliezer Yudkowsky — after several books of content — put the hero of his story in a nearly impossible situation to get out of. He challenged his readers to find a solution within 60 hours otherwise they get the bad ending.
Observing the organic collection, deduplication and rating of ideas in the sheet was an interesting experience.
[0] HPMOR (the story) — http://www.hpmor.com/
[1] Final Exam (the chapter with the assignment) - http://www.hpmor.com/chapter/113
[2] The Spreadsheet – https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17-zbmElKXWv9nqcsDzop...
> BookStory is written in Visual Basic 5, a programming language developed by Microsoft in the mid-90s. I econstituted the .exe file’s machine-only instructions into human-readable source code with the help of a decompilation tool
Because these were not machine instructions, that was virtual machine code. VB always was kind of like Java.
> I figured I’d need a copy of Visual Studio 97, the original software used to write it. I replied to my tweet seeking a copy and a kind, pseudonymous internet stranger sent one. Surprisingly, it installed and ran successfully on Windows 10.
I wonder if it could actually fit in an Excel file - all versions of MS Excel (I didn't check 2019 and 365) include a seemingly untouched VB5 IDE letting you embed VB code within your spreadsheets.
Because these were not machine instructions, that was virtual machine code. VB always was kind of like Java.
> I figured I’d need a copy of Visual Studio 97, the original software used to write it. I replied to my tweet seeking a copy and a kind, pseudonymous internet stranger sent one. Surprisingly, it installed and ran successfully on Windows 10.
I wonder if it could actually fit in an Excel file - all versions of MS Excel (I didn't check 2019 and 365) include a seemingly untouched VB5 IDE letting you embed VB code within your spreadsheets.
Such a lovely story. So great.
For translation, using a Weblate instance makes a lot more sense over using Google Sheets https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate
hosted.weblate.org is only free for open-source projects, but it shouldn't be hard to find alternative hosting, or launch a Docker container in the cloud??
hosted.weblate.org is only free for open-source projects, but it shouldn't be hard to find alternative hosting, or launch a Docker container in the cloud??
The key is probably to make the community onboarding and experience as easy as possible, to allow for spontaneous community translation projects like the one in the article.
It's nice to see that the Weblate project itself provides some guidance (and checklists) around community-building: https://docs.weblate.org/en/weblate-4.6.2/devel/community.ht...
(perhaps expanding that could be one meta-method for improving the accessibility and suitability of Weblate for situations like this. agree that hosting -- or having something available online that works already -- can often be an obstacle to adoption too)
It's nice to see that the Weblate project itself provides some guidance (and checklists) around community-building: https://docs.weblate.org/en/weblate-4.6.2/devel/community.ht...
(perhaps expanding that could be one meta-method for improving the accessibility and suitability of Weblate for situations like this. agree that hosting -- or having something available online that works already -- can often be an obstacle to adoption too)
For those looking to run this on a Mac, the following seems to have worked for me (M1, Big Sur 11.2.3):
``` brew tap gcenx/wine brew install --cask --no-quarantine wine-crossover brew install winetricks winetricks corefonts vcrun6 vb5run native_oleaut32 vcrun2010 richtx32 comdlg32 comctl32ocx wine BookStory_en.exe ```
``` brew tap gcenx/wine brew install --cask --no-quarantine wine-crossover brew install winetricks winetricks corefonts vcrun6 vb5run native_oleaut32 vcrun2010 richtx32 comdlg32 comctl32ocx wine BookStory_en.exe ```
Oh sweet - thanks for this. I will add it to the README
And here's what happens when one uses Google Translate to translate a video game: https://legendsoflocalization.com/funky-fantasy-iv/
I'm involved in civic tech organizing -- communities of engaged citizens (yes tech, but also activists, public servants, lawyers, designs, and any engaged residents) who get together every week (usually in person) to pitch and work on continuing civic initiatives at "civic hacknights". Often these efforts involve some tech, but it's not a rule they must.
On a good night, it's electric: some guy who's a construction foreman might join a group working on supporting emergency shelters, led by an amorphous group of whom its unclear who's leading and who's "volunteering". (There are some white dudes, but not ALL white dudes.) Maybe they've been visiting emergency shelters doing interviews, and some projects even lure some folks with experience in the problem domain (i.e. living on the street) to take on meaningful roles and learn.
I have a hope that someday all civic action will have analogous citizen projects to complement official efforts, both intersecting in unexpected ways. Unexpected like, we've had public servants come out of their government day jobs to "launder" code into the community, meaning another community member takes over the codebase, while the staff goes back into city government to spend down some political capital in "liberating" some data to drive "that new community app that sprung up" (air quotes).
On the good days, it feels a little bit like this article conveys, and I can kinda feel the leading edge of what a future civics might be, once government is truly built openly and is more permeable to the citizenry <3