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how does google take your company's software product, repackage it, and charge monthly subscription for it without telling your CEO and legal team about it. Please, I'm all ears.

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are you seriously trying to convince people that its okay to steal Google's intellectual property because they are an "evil American monopoly bent on global destruction"?

How the fuck would you feel if somebody took your lifes hard work without asking, slapped a logo and started selling it? You seriously don't have an issue with stealing other people's properties?

Who's the troll here? Someone from a former penal colony who is most likely a descendant of either a rapist, thief and a murderer from England trying to argue that intellectual property theft is not theft because Monopoly.

I'm outta here. I'll let the Google paralegals sift through this thread and before sending out subpoenas.

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so you are okay with somebody taking your hard work, slapping their logo and selling it without your knowledge? You are seriously going to sit there and tell me intellectual theft is suddenly not really theft.

k. im outta here.

edit: @driverdan (since you flagged all my comments to silence me) my company has been acquired and I no longer have direct control, so if you are insinuating that I am trying to squelch the competition, you are spreading libel. I'm not going to sit here and let driverdan, a self professed criminal, spread lies.

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SPOILER ALERT: 3taps was forced to pay millions in settlement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craigslist_Inc._v._3Taps_Inc.#...

> 3Taps and PadMapper were companies that partnered to provide an alternative user interface for browsing Craigslist's housing ads. In doing so, they scraped Craigslist's site for data, which Craigslist did not approve of. Craigslist sent both companies a cease-and-desist letter and blocked their IP addresses, but this did not stop 3Taps from scraping through other IP addresses. Craigslist then sued, resulting in this case.

I think you may be in the deep-end now. Good luck with the sharks.

Your audacity is admirable but its foolhardy. You based your entire business on incomplete legal ruling without consulting a lawyer I presume.

How the fuck would you feel if somebody took your life's work, slapped their logo and started selling it? I'm sure you can see the ethnical issues of this and the legal ramifications.

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sure buddy, really curious post timestamps

How the fuck would you feel if somebody took your original hard work, slapped their logo, and started peddling it to unsuspecting customers? You are seriously going to ignore this key legal and ethics issue? Give me a fucking break and do your god damn research first on the subject before you run your mouth.

I don't think you know what narcing is. It comes from employees of drug cartels that turn against them and testify against their illegal activities. Is google a dangerous drug cartel? I guess they are a data cartel of sorts. Not sure why that would be used to argue that they are evil....yet you are still using Google to do research....hypocrisy much?

If we want to keep Google free, we need to help them.

Google lawyers might not see it as "exaggerated" more of a "infringement of property and trademark" or even pushing for "computer fraud and abuse act".

Don't hate me, hate Google. More likely they have been monitoring serpapi already and I'm just another uncompensated sucker that reported it.

I'll let you know as soon as I hear from Google's legal team, since you seem to be mysteriously fixated on defending serpAPI....like literally right after OP has posted a reply...timing is highly suspect

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how would you feel if somebody took your product you spent years on, slapped their own logo and started selling it? Intellectual theft is theft regardless....and here you are justifying it. WOW.

are you seriously defending OP's operation? Even when its questionable at best ethically? Google doesn't want people using their search results to make money off of it. If they did, they would release it like Bing API. I'm sure you can see why this would be worthy of Google's attention and why enforcement of such rules is necessary. Otherwise, spamming marketers would easily exploit something like serp api, you are not foolin anybody.

In any case, I saved OP from an even bigger financial ruin. He might just get off with a cease & desist letter. It depends on how much revenue he generated using Google's product without licensing. It's clear OP found out about 3taps vs craigslist, a heavily debated ruling on HN, just today.

Just because Google is a monopoly, doesn't justify civil disobedience here, which seems to be what some are arguing for.

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no. it took less than 5 minutes. I'd gladly give it up if it means catching the bad guys that violate ToS!

did you just login after weeks of inactivity just to defend OP, like the other nicks on this thread ;)

Perhaps you should be speaking to your lawyer, instead of wasting time trying to censor me with obvious alt nicks.

I'm the least of your problems at this point, as I've gotten a confirmation email from Google's Legal team. Yeah dude, this would piss off any monopoly.

Your most welcome.

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wow these personal attacks are geting ridiculous. all of sudden from random inactive accounts too.

HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU FEEL IF SOMEBODY TOOK YOUR HARD WORK, SLAPPED A LOGO, AND STARTED SELLING IT? YOU ARE OKAY WITH THAT???!

I'm taking a snapshot of this entire thread, just in case.

http://archive.is/eDBM6

In any case, it won't help you against Google's army of Ivy league attorney.

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not according to Google, it falls under their ToS and is protected by Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.

Hey I didn't write the law, take it up with Google attorneys. Who's moving the goal post again? LOL

Also peculiar why a seemingly random HN'er would frantically defend questionable practices by OP? Are you an investor or something? a fanboy? It's very strange and raises flags. Just FYI, using alt-nicks to manipulate votes and shilling is against the rules on HN. Please be transparent about your personal stake in this matter, I have my suspicions.

edit: seems like you've hit HN's rate limiter given the sudden silence that fell amongst your nicks. My work is done here and I deserve a nice marijuana break now. Knowing I made the world a safer and fairer place today. Feels good man. Take a break from HN, get out and feel the fresh air, it's a beautiful day.

edit: all of you are ATTACKING GOOGLE as a CARTEL and thus AUTOMATICALLY EVIL. This is FALLACIOUS THINKING. Google is a NET PLUS for humanity. We get it for free. Beggars can't be choosers, especially beggars that try to exploit and profiteer without doing their own research in internet search engine.

How the fuck would you feel if I took your product, slapped my name on it and sold it? This is EXACTLY what OP is doing. There is no grey areas, its a totally BLACK and WHITE issue.

Violating trademarks and infringing on intellectual property carries jail sentencing and shit ton of fines. You are encouraging OP to go off on the far end...why? Are you relying on his service? Please clarify.

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your point being? that has nothing to do with bypassing IP bans and defeating captcha. see 3taps vs craigslist ruling from EFF.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/06/padmapper-and-3taps-se...

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Reporting illegal activity is not nice? I'm sorry you got caught. Defeating captcha and bypassing IP block from Google servers would fall under CFAA, which they nailed 3taps for.

Yeah, we know you are not a lawyer and neither am I, but writing I ANAL, doesn't really exempt you from the law...im sure it doesn't take a lawyer to realize this.

see 3taps vs Craigslist and the CFAA ruling. Public data is fine, its just when you break their captcha and bypass their IP ban, it becomes an issue. Which you've pretty much admitted in your reddit thread.

You can try defending yourself in court against the world's best legal team. Any capitulation now is better than losing your entire life savings over in the subsequent legal defense fees alone.

edit: whats the matter? run out of alt-nicks? LMAO. dude you make it way too obvious. inactive accounts suddenly converging on this particular thread using the same argument over and over to censor my comments...not even bothering to change writing styles...

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Why would you care so much as to personally write that comment? What stake do you own in serpAPI? It fringes Google's trademark and violates the Terms of Service.

If it was okay for SerpAPI to do it then everybody would be launching similar API on top of existing products. It's illegal and you are profiteering off the work of others.

I can't believe I am being downvoted for this. I am going to have to expedite the process now and reach out directly to an executive I know working at Google.

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that's totally not the same thing.

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Corporations are made up of people but the corporation itself is NOT the sum of its people, it is its own entity, hell US corporations have the same human rights and social number.

The difference is a corporation is void of moral conscience, so you can't really expect to bring your own Judeo-Christian ethics here

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How the fuck are you not sued yet by Google? Scraping their SERP and profiteering off of is clearly against their ToS and will alert their legal team.

edit: dude, you need to stop, or you are going to get sued, I'm serious.

https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/8a2zx9/weve_just_la...

I've alerted [email protected] about SerpAPI

    Thanks for your feedback. We appreciate your bringing
 this to our attention, and we'll investigate. We'll follow
 up with you only if we require more info or we have
 additional info to share.

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I don't get the pushback....you signed up to work for a for-profit publicly traded corporation. You received your benefits and compensation. Now suddenly, you have a problem with your employer trying to do its job which is continue to please wall street that impacts the share price?

it's kinda like that pushback from MS that was puzzling too....whether you like it or not, the very work you are doing in university to where you end up workiung, directly or indirectly contributes to somebody on the other side of the planet not having the things you have so you can keep the stuff you have....

the entitlement, and the blatant ignorance is just mind boggling...where does this mentality come from? This type of shit is now encroaching even video games... in Battlefield V, the game has been completely neutered of its historic accuracy....Redheaded cutie with a robot arm in WW2?

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what is amazing about it?

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qlalqjsgh is my password.

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China certainly has very challenging and unique problems when it comes to infrastructures. The sheer size of the population, land mass, the scale of it is staggering.

If only they could open their eyes to democracy and freedom of human rights....then and only then will China be equipped to challenge the American/European hegemony, ushering in a new age of pan-east asian propserity.

In other words, same words, different empire.

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