Enough Is Enough: No More Babying Women in Tech(techraptor.net)
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Enough Is Enough: No More Babying Women in Tech
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Let's be honest - tech culture has problems with sexism. However, Anita and her ilk feed on outrage. They're no different from extremist talkshow hosts. They have no interest in fixing the problem - they would be out a job. They need to create issues to earn money.
I know many good female role models in tech. They are almost never in the spotlight and are often frustrated to have to prove they earned their position.
I know many good female role models in tech. They are almost never in the spotlight and are often frustrated to have to prove they earned their position.
Pretty much just clickbait for confirmation of bias for those certain male sorts who tend to be heterosexual, but are angry about their role displacement in recent years. (Whether that is perceived or real.)
Not sure what anyone gets from that very rigid belief set, besides more male friends and more difficult relations with females.
Are you going to find healthy, heterosexual males with this approach, mentally, to women? I do not think so. After all, this manner of conversation does not go over well with wives and girlfriends, now would it?
But, there is competition in the technical workplace which they are opposed to. And they are not feeling confident in their own capacities as an individual.
The same sort of little societies based around hate of groups grew up against blacks in America, for instance. And it found various points of resurgence. There was a strong resurgence after the Civil War, and there was a strong resurgence during and after the Civil Rights movement.
Not sure what anyone gets from that very rigid belief set, besides more male friends and more difficult relations with females.
Are you going to find healthy, heterosexual males with this approach, mentally, to women? I do not think so. After all, this manner of conversation does not go over well with wives and girlfriends, now would it?
But, there is competition in the technical workplace which they are opposed to. And they are not feeling confident in their own capacities as an individual.
The same sort of little societies based around hate of groups grew up against blacks in America, for instance. And it found various points of resurgence. There was a strong resurgence after the Civil War, and there was a strong resurgence during and after the Civil Rights movement.
Techraptor is a known Gamergate-friendly site, so you're not going to get any balanced articles out of them: https://medium.com/@zoequinnzel/lets-talk-about-ethics-in-ga...
It's an article from one of the individuals involved in the catalyzing of Gamergate, how is that going to be balanced? Her agenda is the opposite of
Gamergates'.
Is it? Does not matter. It is a biased source.
I am constantly astonished at our human tendency to take what we damned well know are a biased sources and build that up into what we want to believe.
Best way to be: get sources from all angles. That includes moderate.
For me, FYI, "gamergate" and the "men's movement" crap is nothing more then a strange curiosity I have run across from time to time on more established technical forums.
Not something worth thinking about besides in terms of 'the weird things people will believe and become'.
One of the strangest cults out there.
It has has really bad results for the belongers. It guarantees disastrous relationships with women. And these are heterosexuals.
But, the reason why this has come up is obvious, as well: women are coming more and more into the tech workplace. I applaud that. Thankfully, most places I have worked had some female presence. The diversity is deeply welcomed.
I am constantly astonished at our human tendency to take what we damned well know are a biased sources and build that up into what we want to believe.
Best way to be: get sources from all angles. That includes moderate.
For me, FYI, "gamergate" and the "men's movement" crap is nothing more then a strange curiosity I have run across from time to time on more established technical forums.
Not something worth thinking about besides in terms of 'the weird things people will believe and become'.
One of the strangest cults out there.
It has has really bad results for the belongers. It guarantees disastrous relationships with women. And these are heterosexuals.
But, the reason why this has come up is obvious, as well: women are coming more and more into the tech workplace. I applaud that. Thankfully, most places I have worked had some female presence. The diversity is deeply welcomed.
The article is written by a woman.
There have been many more clickbait articles written in support for Ellen after her termination. Gawker and Inc. especially
The rest of your comment are just little snipes at a diverse group(Heterosexual, probably white, men) that happens to contain some undesirables.
Maybe you could define my unhealthy approach to women, and what this very rigid belief set is?
There have been many more clickbait articles written in support for Ellen after her termination. Gawker and Inc. especially
The rest of your comment are just little snipes at a diverse group(Heterosexual, probably white, men) that happens to contain some undesirables.
Maybe you could define my unhealthy approach to women, and what this very rigid belief set is?
Has a woman's name, could be a woman or not.
It is a snipe at a very, very tiny, extremely aberrant group. There are a lot on Reddit, sure. Reddit is where the movement was born and grown. Reddit works by rewarding 'group think' and discouraging critical, non-consensus opinions. Of course cults, very aberrant cultures will grow here.
I am not interested in debating, however. I will just point out every person who gets into that belief system is going to create tremendous problems for themselves in their dealings with women.
I can point out some 'outside viewpoints'. For one, there are some strong commonalities of the Believers: they tend to be techies, tend to be male, tend to be American, and tend to have very poor relationships with women.
There is nothing happy for them to take such beliefs. It is even more sad when they add to them the whole 'pick up artist' - lol - belief set which often accompanies the very absurd 'men's movement'.
FYI, I am a male and heterosexual, lol. I think your attempts to try and cast me as a ... what? Lol? Anti-Male?
Nazi level political correctness is simply not an admirable trait when you are not preaching to the choir.
If I were to be critical of 'why someone might join scientology' would that mean I am being critical of human beings? Or, 'why some guy in Idaho went and shit on the American flag', would that mean I am anti-male?
As for you, for all I know you can have posted this as satire or rhetoric. I do not know you. Maybe you are just pretending to belong to the movement.
But, if it is true... that you work in tech and feel threatened by women in the workplace... that you have severe problems creating and maintaining substantial relationships with women... that you are very sexually frustrated... that you do stick around 'yes men' and engage deeply in 'group think' where you do not consider alternative viewpoints of anything you believe deeply...
Then, I can only suggest you look at your self and get your self out of that mess.
It is a snipe at a very, very tiny, extremely aberrant group. There are a lot on Reddit, sure. Reddit is where the movement was born and grown. Reddit works by rewarding 'group think' and discouraging critical, non-consensus opinions. Of course cults, very aberrant cultures will grow here.
I am not interested in debating, however. I will just point out every person who gets into that belief system is going to create tremendous problems for themselves in their dealings with women.
I can point out some 'outside viewpoints'. For one, there are some strong commonalities of the Believers: they tend to be techies, tend to be male, tend to be American, and tend to have very poor relationships with women.
There is nothing happy for them to take such beliefs. It is even more sad when they add to them the whole 'pick up artist' - lol - belief set which often accompanies the very absurd 'men's movement'.
FYI, I am a male and heterosexual, lol. I think your attempts to try and cast me as a ... what? Lol? Anti-Male?
Nazi level political correctness is simply not an admirable trait when you are not preaching to the choir.
If I were to be critical of 'why someone might join scientology' would that mean I am being critical of human beings? Or, 'why some guy in Idaho went and shit on the American flag', would that mean I am anti-male?
As for you, for all I know you can have posted this as satire or rhetoric. I do not know you. Maybe you are just pretending to belong to the movement.
But, if it is true... that you work in tech and feel threatened by women in the workplace... that you have severe problems creating and maintaining substantial relationships with women... that you are very sexually frustrated... that you do stick around 'yes men' and engage deeply in 'group think' where you do not consider alternative viewpoints of anything you believe deeply...
Then, I can only suggest you look at your self and get your self out of that mess.
"So for those who are curious, what people like Ellen Pao do is not fight sexism. They encourage sexism. They require sexism to sustain themselves, which is why they find it everywhere they look whether it exists or not. Pao is not a pioneer for women in tech. Anita Sarkeesian is not a pioneer for women in gaming. There have been women in both of these industries, as well as science, mathematics, engineering, and every similar field, for much longer than either of these ladies have even lived on this earth. They are also not pioneers for feminism, because they defy the very basic principles that Western feminism was founded on."
Also, their color scheme makes it look like they're an Nvidia site. :|